SCO 5 'definitive' over KVM

[Jean-Pierre Radley]

Mark Luljak averred (on Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:56:08PM -0400):
| Dude, it's never going to happen.
| 
| 1) I do not and cannot travel due to health reasons.
| 
| 2) Conferences are not my scene.  Hell, I -love- sci-fi, but you couldn't
| pay me to go to a convention, even when one hits locally.  It's totally not
| my cup of tea.  I can't imagine many things -less- interesting to me.
| 
| 3) I don't get involved in promoting buzzwords and concepts.  I prefer to
| simply get on with my work and focus on concrete, paying work.  We have
| Eric Raymond; that's enough mouthpiece for several lifetimes.
| 
| 4) If it isn't a paying gig, I'm not even interested.  I have little enough
| free time in which to pursue hobbies I care about.  I have no interest in
| being part of -any- non-employment-situation organisation which eats up my
| free time, at this point in my life.
| 
| 5) "Imagine rubbing shoulder with your peers or [...]"  No.  Just...no.
| It's not my style, it's not my scene, and I've zero interest in it on an
| even semi-social level.  This not only doesn't appeal to me, it acts like
| repellant.
| 
| 6) Whatever membership fees there are are not advertised up-front on the
| membership page, which is a complete three-strike shot against anyone.  I
| do not generally deal with any organisation which does not list costings
| up-front.  There are exceptions, but there are so many things stacked
| against me being interested enough that I'd never make an exception in this
| case.

IXorg membership is only $150 per annum for a one-man shop.  TestFest Fees
have lately been $295 per person.  And I think you would both learn and 
teach with a presence on iXorg's mailing list.  Others here who are also
iXorg members: Scott Nelson, Chris Henschen, Joe Chasan, Tom Podnar, me.

| 7) You're a member.  If you're even remotely representative of a fraction
| of the membership, it's a headache I don't need.  We've managed to get to
| the point where we don't take each other's head off every other post, but
| we're never going to be more than cordially tolerant of each other.  You
| rub me entirely the wrong way.  Assuming people of a like mind gravitate
| towards your group, joining would be like voluntarily walking into the
| middle of a nuclear waste facility filled with leaking barrels; few things
| could be more toxic to me.
| 
| This is the second time you've dropped a hint to this effect.  The first
| was in private.  Now this.  Take a hint:  NOT INTERESTED.
| 
| Cease and desist trying to persuade me.  You've already failed.  Twice.
| Abandon all hope, because there is none to be had.  And I do mean
| absolutely zero.  You could include a free Ferrari, all shipping and taxes
| paid, and the answer would still be, "Nope, pass."
| 
| mark->
| 
| On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 09:29:52PM -0500, Paul McNary thus spoke:
| > Mark this is the exact reason you should join iXorg.
| > We have and will continue to experiment at our events with
| > many things VM. vmWare, Virtual Boxs, etc.
| > This falls event will be no different and our members mailing list
| > is the best bargain you will find. Yes and we like to argue so
| > you would fit right in! :-)
| > Our events are very hands on.
| > 
| > Take care
| > Paul
| > 
| > 
| > On 4/13/2017 2:16 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
| > >On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:54:20AM -0400, Microlite filePro Mail List via Filepro-list thus spoke:
| > >>I am developing a fondness for Oracle VirtualBox. I think in the last year they have made some amazing improvements it it. I'm not a fan of Oracle, and I'm wondering when the other shoe will drop (the shoe that came out of the box they want you to put all your cash back into), but for now the aren't bad at all. Haven't tested on OpenServer 5, but I may just do that.
| > >I had the exact opposite experience with VirtualBox.  I used to love it in
| > >the 3.xx releases.  When they moved to 4.xx, all hell broke loose.  I
| > >started having issues with random VM seizes.  I had issues where nothing
| > >was actually being done on the VM but it would start sucking all CPU across
| > >the board for no apparent reason.  There were a few other 'quirks'.
| > >
| > >Then there's the fact that (at least as of 4.x before I dropped it) it
| > >isn't even designed to be run as a Windows service on Windows.  The hacks
| > >for that are ugly.
| > >
| > >I moved to VMware Workstation (aka 'a REAL, polished hypervisor') for my
| > >needs, and never looked back.
| > >
| > >I'm done playing with amateur crap, especially from Oracle.  I actually
| > >believe Oracle's acquisition of Sun was the death knell for VBox.  It went
| > >downhill in quality sharply thereafter.
| > >
| > >mark->
| > 
| > 
| 
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