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On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 11:38:12PM -0500, Brian K. White may or may not have
proven themselves an utter git by pronouncing:
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> He may not have for the same reason I might not have if I were making that 
> particular point.

By your (long, convoluted, drawn out) logic, we should deter Iran and the
DPRK from their nuclear proliferation aims by restarting our own and
lobbing a few their way, -just- to make the point.

Yes, it's an extreme comparison, but that's about the sort of thing you're
justifying.

> causes me to wish you had left him alone, and what I did about it was 
> present that viewpoint for your acceptance or rejection as you see fit. Or 
> more likely/hopefully, rejection followed by gradual integration. Or even, 
> rejection accompanied by some explanation of your own philosophy that maybe 
> I will gradually integrate. Anything is possible in a world that made the 

Okay, someone's been taking -wayyyy- too many Sociology courses at the
local Learning Annex.  That paragraph was so filled with "buzz-thinking"
(it's like buzzwords, but directed towards thought itself) that it's not
even worth trying to figure out what I -think- you mean.  When someone
starts taking it -that- seriously, I just glaze over until they start in
with the Real Content again, rather than all that trendy "societal model"
and pop psychology drivel.  "Alpha-male-geek," indeed.  Whatever.

> Yes, obviously you unfortunately got some backlash from the reaction John 
> has generated in me by grazing a button that was made exceptionally sore and 
> kept that way by his lack of reaction since then. I must assume he feels he 

And -I- would have exactly -what- to do with whatever John did or didn't
think, say, or do?  I wasn't even involved in that thread.  Funny, I didn't
know the transitive property from mathematics actually applied to bad
manners.  I was raised to believe it was just a poor excuse (even though
I'm sometimes guilty of it myself).

> is as pure as the driven snow and beyond comments from mortals. This sort of 
> indirect consequences and chain/ripple reactions are what I meant by "sand 
> vs oil in the overall social machine". It's a 3rd grade lesson but I guess 
> it's just been too long since 3rd grade for him.

Brian, I don't even know where to start.  Things finally settle down on
that one, and you want to start it up again?  Go play with a gadget or
something.

And I find your comments about John extremely unjustified, unfair, and
above all--untrue.  But this is what it's really all about yet?  Brian
didn't get his way in an argument, or couldn't raise a response?  How
puerile.

Perhaps he didn't dignify your prior comments with a reply because none was
warranted.  I'd personally put that at the top of -my- list of potential
reasons why he didn't bother.  And if he didn't respond then, when you were
actually out of line, I shouldn't think he'd feel a need to be provoked
into defending himself (against what, your opinion?) now.  But your attempt
to -provoke- a response out of him at this juncture with this childish
display is transparent as Plexi-Glass.  Do you really have that much vested
in anything you said that you can't let someone let it wash over them when
they feel it's not worth their while?  Are you spoiling -that- hard for a
fight?  It's not bad enough that you stab someone in the back--make sure
you just wedge it in there REALLY DEEP, right?  I mean, anything worth
doing is worth doing well, I presume.

And you know the funny thing, Brian?  I'm not even ticked off at your
(quite lengthy) reply because of anything you said about -me-.  I really
don't care what you think of me.  I'm ticked over your -second- strafing
run at John (and was none too thrilled at the first, but kept silent at the
time).

"Was one the same as three?  Did two differ from one?  No?  Then what will
you get out of four, five, and six that you did not get from one, two, and
three?"  --Byron, "Babylon 5"

'nuff said.  Next topic.  Anything halfway sane will do.  Preferably
fP-related so Nancy won't start with the Net-Nanny "hall monitor" act
again.

And next time...why not just let Jay respond for himself?   You'll save
yourself the embarrassment.  Trust me, he can hold his own far better than
you--and I find the conversation more intelligent and engaging, to boot.

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