Newbie advice

[Nancy Palmquist]

Jeff,

I would add that John is a character and the videos are very 
entertaining as well as informative.

Nancy

On 6/8/2021 12:00 PM, Boaz Bezborodko via Filepro-list wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> John Esak put together a very nice set of videos that teach FP from 
> beginning to advanced that are also decently indexed.
> I think they were ~$600 or $700, but I don't know if he still has them 
> available.  I have a copy on my hard drive, but don't know if I'm 
> allowed to transfer them.
> If anyone can suggest the best way to ethically make them available 
> them I'm all ears.  (One option:  I could burn them onto DVD and 
> delete my copies.)
>
> I no longer use Filepro except to access certain historical data. I'm 
> now with a different company and we don't use it anymore.
>
> Boaz
>
> On 6/8/2021 11:43 AM, filepro-list-request at lists.celestial.com wrote:
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>>     1. Re: Newbie advice (Richard Kreiss)
>>     2. RE: Newbie advice (mschw at athenet.net)
>>     3. RE: Newbie advice (Walter Vaughan Jr)
>>     4. RE: Newbie advice (laura.k.brody)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 09:23:29 -0400
>> From: Richard Kreiss <rkreiss at verizon.net>
>> To: Jeff Bandle <jeffbandle at gmail.com>
>> Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
>> Subject: Re: Newbie advice
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>> Jeff,
>>
>> Starting from the beginning is not such a bad thing. Once you 
>> understand how filePro works, it makes it easier to diagnose issues. 
>> Kwwp in mind that many functions are hidden from an FP programmer. To 
>> make it faster to write code. As the underlying programming expands 
>> so does the functionality of filePro.
>>
>> I have been programming with filePro for over 30 years.through 
>> versions 3 to the current version. As this is art & science no two 
>> programmers will write the same code to solve a problem. Supplying 
>> the ?source? code with the runtimes insures the developer of having  
>> the version that the client is using   I have done this many times to 
>> insure any modifications done for the client is on-site. I do have 
>> copies of most of me client?s programs on my server. This makes it 
>> easy for me to restore their programming in the event of a disaster. 
>> Many don?t do backups or test them to insure that the backup actually 
>> works. I have one client who copies the backup to another computer in 
>> case his primary server goes down. The backup server is off-site.
>>
>> Richard Kreiss
>>
>> GCC CONSULTING
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 7, 2021, at 8:59 PM, Jeff Bandle via Filepro-list 
>>> <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Hi All -
>>>
>>>    Long time lurker on this list but I'm compelled to ask for some 
>>> advice.
>>> A few weeks ago Nancy posted a notice that a long time FilePro 
>>> programmer,
>>> George Simon had unexpectedly passed away.  I knew George from 
>>> working with
>>> him the last 10 years, assisting him on the FlowerSoft Silver 
>>> application
>>> used by quite a few independent flower shops throughout the US.  I 
>>> didn't do
>>> any FilePro development but helped by providing standalone applications
>>> George called to handle things such as decrypting wire orders and 
>>> processing
>>> credit card transactions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   George's sudden passing has left these shops in an unsupported 
>>> situation
>>> and I've agreed to see if I can take this on in a very limited 
>>> manner to at
>>> least buy time for these shops to move onto another solution. I've been
>>> working with Nancy and the fptech folks and have gotten a 6.0 
>>> license for
>>> the newest FilePro development environment.  In researching the 
>>> installed
>>> FlowerSoft software at several difference locations, it looks like 
>>> George
>>> included the source code with the executable bits.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   What I'm asking is advice/guidance on the best way to proceed with 
>>> ramping
>>> up on FilePro so I can at least try to diagnose issues if they were
>>> reported.  George and I had talked about me helping him and he was 
>>> going to
>>> provide guidance but sadly that never happened before his passing.  A
>>> complicating factor is George was on FilePro 5.0 and I guess there are
>>> potential conflicts if I use the 6.0 version that I will have to 
>>> watch out
>>> for.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   I apologize up front if this is too vague.  I've programmed in C, 
>>> C++ and
>>> C# along with MySQL and MS SQL, so I have a fair amount of programming
>>> experience.  I've looked at the training materials available on the 
>>> fptech
>>> site but what I've seen seems to be geared for starting from 
>>> scratch, not
>>> how to support an existing project.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any tips.  I would like to have a setup where 
>>> I make
>>> changes on my local development machine and then role those changes 
>>> to the
>>> customer system, but maybe that isn't a good way to do it. Any 
>>> thoughts on
>>> a recommendation for setting up a support "lab" would be very helpful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff Bandle
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 09:09:38 -0500
>> From: <mschw at athenet.net>
>> To: <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>> Subject: RE: Newbie advice
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>> [snip]
>>
>>    What I'm asking is advice/guidance on the best way to proceed with 
>> ramping
>> up on FilePro so I can at least try to diagnose issues if they were
>> reported.  George and I had talked about me helping him and he was 
>> going to
>> provide guidance but sadly that never happened before his passing.  A
>> complicating factor is George was on FilePro 5.0 and I guess there are
>> potential conflicts if I use the 6.0 version that I will have to 
>> watch out
>> for.
>>
>> Jeff Bandle
>>
>> ----- -----
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>
>>
>>       This list is probably your most valuable ally.  I'm sure we 
>> would all
>> be willing to help out if you run into a filePro problem you can't 
>> figure
>> out.  If it turns into a big problem, several of us are independent
>> programmers who can be hired to help you fix it.
>>
>>      I also do filePro training classes.  I'm doing most of the training
>> virtually now, so can include you in one of my sessions.
>>
>>       Or, if you let me know where you live, I can probably get you 
>> in on one
>> of my on-site training classes.  (The classes are usually at one 
>> individual
>> company, but some of them have allowed me to invite "strangers" in.
>> Depending on the Covid situation, I may be doing training in Phoenix, 
>> AZ and
>> Courtland, NY this year.)
>>
>>       You might want to try to buy a copy of Stuart Werner's filePro
>> Developers Reference.  (I just tried to bring up the STN.com web 
>> site, but
>> was unable to.  I hope STN is not out of business...)
>>
>>       George's library may already have a copy of the reference, even 
>> if it
>> is an older edition.  (The last edition only covered version 5 of 
>> filePro.)
>>
>>       I've acquired a couple of the older filePro printed manuals.  
>> They only
>> cover filePro through version 4.1, but I still find the programming 
>> info and
>> examples invaluable.  Again, George's library may have a copy.
>>
>>       I might be persuaded to send you one of my copies of the 
>> filePro manual
>> if you can't find one elsewhere.
>>
>>       You might want to look for issues of the old newsletters that 
>> John Esak
>> put out.  I have some of these newsletters, but I am in the process of
>> moving and they are packed in boxes in my storage unit right now.
>>
>>       I sure wish I could get a complete set of the old Esak 
>> newsletters.  I
>> would love to have a complete set.  If anybody has a set and if John 
>> Esak
>> would give permission to scan them in, I would pay the neighbor kid 
>> to scan
>> them in and create PDF's for me...
>>
>>       You can also contact Laura Brody to see if she still has the old
>> "filePro Goddess" journals.  There were only a few of those, but they 
>> had a
>> lot of good filePro tips and tricks in them.
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>>
>> Mike Schwartz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 14:46:34 +0000
>> From: Walter Vaughan Jr <wvaughan at steelerubber.com>
>> To: "mschw at athenet.net" <mschw at athenet.net>
>> Cc: "filepro-list at lists.celestial.com"
>>     <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>> Subject: RE: Newbie advice
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> On Behalf Of Mike Schwartz via Filepro-list
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 10:10 AM
>> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
>> Subject: RE: Newbie advice
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>
>>       You might want to try to buy a copy of Stuart Werner's filePro 
>> Developers Reference.  (I just tried to bring up the STN.com web 
>> site, but was unable to.  I hope STN is not out of business...)
>>
>> https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/palmbeachpost/obituary.aspx?n=stuart-l-werner&pid=196841242 
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2021 11:43:33 -0400
>> From: "laura.k.brody" <laura.k.brody at gmail.com>
>> To: mschw at athenet.net, filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
>> Subject: RE: Newbie advice
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>> Don't use 6.0 features. Other than that, you should have compatible 
>> code.Laura Brody?Sent from my Galaxy
>> -------- Original message --------From: Mike Schwartz via 
>> Filepro-list <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com> Date: 6/8/21  10:10 
>> AM  (GMT-05:00) To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com Subject: RE: 
>> Newbie advice [snip] ? What I'm asking is advice/guidance on the best 
>> way to proceed with rampingup on FilePro so I can at least try to 
>> diagnose issues if they werereported.? George and I had talked about 
>> me helping him and he was going toprovide guidance but sadly that 
>> never happened before his passing.? Acomplicating factor is George 
>> was on FilePro 5.0 and I guess there arepotential conflicts if I use 
>> the 6.0 version that I will have to watch outfor.Jeff Bandle----- 
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------???? 
>> This list is probably your most valuable ally.? I'm sure we would 
>> allbe willing to help out if you run into a filePro problem you can't 
>> figureout.? If it turns into a big problem, several of us are 
>> independentprogrammers who can be hired to help you
>>    fix it.? ??? I also do filePro training classes.? I'm doing most 
>> of the trainingvirtually now, so can include you in one of my 
>> sessions.? ???? Or, if you let me know where you live, I can probably 
>> get you in on oneof my on-site training classes.? (The classes are 
>> usually at one individualcompany, but some of them have allowed me to 
>> invite "strangers" in.Depending on the Covid situation, I may be 
>> doing training in Phoenix, AZ andCourtland, NY this year.)???? You 
>> might want to try to buy a copy of Stuart Werner's fileProDevelopers 
>> Reference.? (I just tried to bring up the STN.com web site, butwas 
>> unable to.? I hope STN is not out of business...)? ???? George's 
>> library may already have a copy of the reference, even if itis an 
>> older edition.? (The last edition only covered version 5 of 
>> filePro.)???? I've acquired a couple of the older filePro printed 
>> manuals.? They onlycover filePro through version 4.1, but I still 
>> find the programming info andexamples invaluable.? Again, George's libr
>>   ary may have a copy.? ???? I might be persuaded to send you one of 
>> my copies of the filePro manualif you can't find one elsewhere.???? 
>> You might want to look for issues of the old newsletters that John 
>> Esakput out.? I have some of these newsletters, but I am in the 
>> process ofmoving and they are packed in boxes in my storage unit 
>> right now.? ???? I sure wish I could get a complete set of the old 
>> Esak newsletters.? Iwould love to have a complete set.? If anybody 
>> has a set and if John Esakwould give permission to scan them in, I 
>> would pay the neighbor kid to scanthem in and create PDF's for me...? 
>> ???? You can also contact Laura Brody to see if she still has the 
>> old"filePro Goddess" journals.? There were only a few of those, but 
>> they had alot of good filePro tips and tricks in them.Hope that 
>> helps!Mike Schwartz???? ????????? 
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