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[Richard Kreiss]

Mark comments do annoy many on the list but he has the experience and knowledge that he freely passes on about an issue. I suggest that we all learn from him as he does point out solutions and other issues one may have. 


I also have spoken with John Esak and he mentioned speaking with Mark. After that when he read Mark’s posts he could hear his voice and did not take offense with what was written. 


Keep in mind I I have done business with Mark and find his advise and programming ability well beyond my abilities. 

Richard Kreiss 

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> On Jul 21, 2021, at 12:58 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 04:18:05PM +0000, David Duff thus spoke:
>> I'm nowhere as learned as you are (but I do IQ at 143, so I'm not stupid)
>> BUT I do know how to express an opinion WITHOUT insulting the other
>> person, something you really, really need to learn.
> 
> No, I really don't.  Whether or not you choose to take insult is on you.
> Hell, 80%+ of communication is on the interpretive side.  I stated my
> opinion.  Like you, I stand by mine.  I didn't use any ad hominems.  I made
> observations based upon your own admissions of your practises.  If you
> don't -like- my results, well you can 1) reject them out of hand, 2) take
> them to heart and change how you do things to achieve a better result, or
> 3) take offence and play the victim.  You apparently chose the third.
> Your loss.
> 
> The only thing of which you're a victim here is your own admissions of
> your own practises.  I'm not going to feel sorry for you.  You dug that
> hole yourself.
> 
>> There are nicer ways to get your message across to us lesser talents and
>> then, we might actually listen to you.
> 
> You're not paying me to be nice.  You're not actually paying me a fucking
> thing.  You therefore don't get to dictate the manner in which I couch
> things unless it's being done on your dime.  Specific couching can be
> bought.  So can my silence, for that matter.  Inquire privately about my
> rates for those services.  You're paying for neither special couching
> nor silence, so you get the corresponding result, which is my candid,
> unvarnished opinion.  I really don't care whether or not you feel like
> taking offence.
> 
> You're offended?  So what?  Fine, I'll see your offence, and raise.  I'm
> now offended that you're offended.  Now you've victimised me.  "ZOMG,
> my world is ending!"  See how meaningful taking offence isn't?  You're
> -so- using the wrong ammunition on the wrong person.  I was born well
> before 1980; I'm made of sterner stuff, and will not be cowed like
> some millennial.  Hell, Esak -and- JPR couldn't take me down, and they
> -actually- knew their stuff.  Better people than you have tried and failed.
> (Funnily enough, I ended up as friends with both, as well as Stockler and
> Vermillion, to name a few.)