Issue with Windows 10 Screen colors

Tue Jan 7 11:06:12 PST 2020

There is always a cost to having someone around for years, decades even, to
answer the phone when the upgrade request arrives.

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Bill McEachran
bill.mceachran at gmail.com     289-356-4406

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 1:46 PM Microlite filePro Mail List via Filepro-list
<filepro-list at lists.celestial.com> wrote:

> *** I got as far as paragraph three.
> I would have expected nothing more. Taking the time to completely read and
> understand opinions other than your own does not appear to be in your
> general nature.
>
> *** A few vendors from whom I used to purchase software started taking
> your approach.  They're no longer my vendors.
> My flippant response to your flippant response would be that you have no
> vendors, since no vendor I know would be jumping to make 20 year old
> software work on modern platforms. That does not preclude the possibility
> that one exists. Just that I don't know of one.
>
> *** By your logic, it would be acceptable to keep wallet-raping someone
> every time there's a new major update to Win10, since that's now their
> equivalent of a new OS version.  You try that, and let us know how it works
> for you.
> Actually, my "logic" says that whenever changes caused by an operating
> system vendor break out-of-support software, the vendor is entitled to
> compensation to remediate the problem, as it is extra work that costs money
> to engineer and provide. But you are certainly free to misinterpret that in
> any fashion you desire. I won't try to stop you.
>
> Tom Podnar
> Microlite Corporation
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fairlight via Filepro-list" <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 12:19:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Issue with Windows 10 Screen colors
>
> I got as far as paragraph three.
>
> My response is thus:  Then the licensee has no obligation to continue
> doing business with your company, and paying for 'upgrade' after
> 'upgrade'.  A few vendors from whom I used to purchase software started
> taking your approach.  They're no longer my vendors.
>
> By your logic, it would be acceptable to keep wallet-raping someone every
> time there's a new major update to Win10, since that's now their equivalent
> of a new OS version.  You try that, and let us know how it works for you.
>
> Realistically, in the specific case of filePro, it probably just needed a
> recompile.  Considering they have the devkit -anyway-, there's a near-zero
> cost to providing modern binaries.  I've done more intensive things to
> update compiled Perl, at no cost, so I'm not feeling very sympathetic
> towards, "Oh noes, I need to recompile!"
>
> Good luck with that outlook.  You do you.  I find people tend to frown upon
> such behaviour, but whatever.
>
> m->
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 10:55:36AM -0500, Microlite filePro Mail List via
> Filepro-list thus spoke:
> > I'm going to have to push back on your principle, or at least your silly
> and inaccurate analogy.
> >
> > A software vendor has an obligation to keep a product running in
> perpetuity ON THE PLATFORM IT WAS WRITTEN FOR.
> >
> > So if I write software for Windows 98 32 bit, and Windows 10 64 bit
> doesn't support Win98 32bit applications anymore, I've no obligation to
> make it work as is on that platform.
> > I've agreed to make my Windows 98 version work on the platform you
> purchased it for, Windows 98. Not something that hasn't been invented yet.
> >
> > Your choices are:
> >  1 - Keep it running on a platform that supports what you purchased. Our
> agreement is intact.
> >  2 - Purchase whatever I've got that runs on the platform you want to
> switch to.
> >  3 - Buy something else.
> >
> > It costs the vendor a lot of engineering time and money to support the
> newer platform.
> > If you've gotten your money's worth on the old product, you are likely
> to want the new product and be willing to pay for it. If not, there is
> always door #3.
> >
> > I'm going to have to agree with Nancy here. I'm well aware of
> development costs for volume software.
> >
> > In our case I WILL update you to a product that hasn't been invented
> yet, IF I end up supporting that platform and IF you maintain a Support
> Subscription.
> >
> > Tom Podnar
> > Microlite Corporation
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Fairlight via Filepro-list" <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> > To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 9:57:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: Issue with Windows 10 Screen colors
> >
> > Actually, why should we agree to that?
> >
> > That's like saying GM isn't responsible for making sure their cars
> > (which you purchased) are capable of driving on asphalt instead of
> > concrete.
> >
> > If people purchased software in good faith, it should be usable in
> > perpetuity, or they should be upgraded for free.  I've expired product
> > versions and forced upgrades, but the difference is that my old stuff
> > doesn't stop working; it's an optional upgrade, and the only way you'll
> > get support, but nothing prevents the old versions from working.
> >
> > Hell, I replace old binary versions of programs with the script version,
> > if it's an issue.
> >
> > No, I wouldn't agree on principle.
> >
> > m->
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 09:13:28AM -0500, Nancy Palmquist via
> Filepro-list thus spoke:
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > It may be time to update.  While I know those old versions work great
> and
> > > have for over 20 years, you have to agree that filepro is not
> responsible to
> > > make those old versions compatible with the hardware and operating
> systems
> > > on the new computers.  Also, an investment in fptech so the filepro
> product
> > > is viable for the future is a fabulous idea.  Your customer got his
> money's
> > > worth out of 4.8.
> > >
> > > Nancy
> > >
> > > On 1/5/2020 8:03 PM, SCott Smith via Filepro-list wrote:
> > > > So on a cmd prompt when trying to run eg. SITEPWD.exe you get a
> popup The
> > > > version of this file is not compatible with the version of Windows.
> Check
> > > > your version of the program, contact your software publisher.
> > > >
> > > > running a 32bit windows 10 version ...
> > > >
> > > > But as i mentioned haven't used these in forever so ...
> > > >
> > > > Its just that all the other exe files are 32bit / 64bit compatible
> yet 3
> > > > files on that ver media were not. I assume that these 3 files must
> be only
> > > > 16 bit incarnations.
> > > >
> > > > I wondered if any of these files were updated prior to the end of
> that the
> > > > 4.8 version.
> > > >
> > > > But as they service little to no purpose i would guess not.
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 00:21, Fairlight <fairlite at fairlite.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Win10 64-bit still runs 32-bit binaries.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ancient 16-bit binaries will be deemed "not a Windows executable",
> but it
> > > > > would say that explicitly if you open a command prompt and try
> running it
> > > > > there where the window can't vanish.  32-bit should be fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > What error message are you getting when you try running them at
> the command
> > > > > prompt?
> > > > >
> > > > > m->
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 12:39:57PM +1000, Scott via Filepro-list
> thus
> > > > > spoke:
> > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are just starting to change from win 7 over to windows 10 and
> some
> > > > > > clients are running ver 4.8.10 and the fpconfig.exe must have
> not been
> > > > > > running for a long time as fpconfig.exe seems to be crashing
> that it's
> > > > > not
> > > > > > 64bit compatible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can anybody advice ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Scott
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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