Printer issue - new

Tue Feb 25 10:41:44 PST 2020

You literally just criticised wasting money on old tech, while you
(presumably still) advocate using filePro.  Ahhh, smell the irony... :)

m->

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 10:18:01AM -0500, Nancy Palmquist via Filepro-list thus spoke:
> Jose,
> 
> I have to agree.  I just helped a tech that was trying to make a parallel
> printer work for a customer, because it "always worked with the old Windows
> XP" they had.  Suggestion - adjust to a Laser Printer.  Suggestion ignored,
> time was spent trying to make it work with some crazy printer spoolers. 
> When the output was still garbled after 2 weeks of attempts, in a few hours
> we moved the system to use a laser printer.  While wasting money on old tech
> is the customer's choice, I never understand it.
> 
> Nancy
> 
> On 2/20/2020 10:38 AM, Jose Lerebours via Filepro-list wrote:
> > Wouldn't `netcat` be a generic solution to reaching printers across
> > intra/extranet?
> > 
> > Why use USB only printers and then struggle with this!?!  Get a printer
> > that can be given an IP, regardless of the PC it is attached to and use
> > `netcat` in lieu of "print" or "lp".
> > 
> > What am I missing here?
> > 
> > On a side note, when did WIN 10 become a "Server OS"?  We are trying to
> > run away from "complexity" and render our topology worthless.  There was
> > a time where one had a "real server" or "servers" and I just do not
> > remember this kind of things being as much of an issue.
> > 
> > It is so nice for us to turn to fpTech for solutions for the problems we
> > create by making bad decisions - We save $$$ and then expect filePro to
> > do things that are only a problem because of the decision we've made. 
> > It is as if to say, well, I am allowed to do a bad infrastructure design
> > and filePro is responsible thus fpTech has to fix it ...
> > 
> > Am I the only one that see something wrong with this?
> > 
> > 
> > On 2/20/20 9:55 AM, Richard D. Williams via Filepro-list wrote:
> > > That's what I thought.
> > > 
> > > If I have a printer on a Linux server I just need to add that to my
> > > config file.
> > > Then, anyone can reach it.
> > > 
> > > When a printer is added to the FP Windows config, does not that
> > > printer need to be on each PC?
> > > 
> > > Richard
> > > 
> > > There is no universal way
> > > 
> > > On 2/19/2020 6:31 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
> > > > Find, as in actual discovery?  Highly, highly doubtful.  I'd go
> > > > so far as
> > > > saying 99.9999%+ unlikely.
> > > > 
> > > > That would require wayyyyy more work than I can ever see fP Tech
> > > > putting
> > > > in.  Hell, HP and Brother can't even get that 100% right, and
> > > > they write
> > > > the damned drivers for their own printers.  (Literally, HP printers get
> > > > lost, and Brother's driver is only fine once you coax it into
> > > > knowing where
> > > > the printer is.  It was -not- PnP.  At least the Brother stays
> > > > connected, which is more than I could say for the HP.)
> > > > 
> > > > More succinctly: "Hah!  No way in hell do I believe it can do it!"
> > > > 
> > > > m->
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 03:37:44PM -0600, Richard D. Williams
> > > > via Filepro-list thus spoke:
> > > > > Does windows filepro have the ability to find a printer not
> > > > > on the users PC?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Richard D. Williams
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 2/19/2020 1:27 PM, Richard Kreiss via Filepro-list wrote:
> > > > > > Filepro 5.0
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Client installed a new "server" named data1 running
> > > > > > Windows 10 Pro with an
> > > > > > HP Printer attached using a USB port labeled virtual
> > > > > > porter port for USB.
> > > > > > Printer name is: HP Officejet Pro 8100
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This printer is connected to "server" data1.  In filePro's printer
> > > > > > maintenance this printer is named HP-8100 and the
> > > > > > destination is win: HP
> > > > > > Officejet Pro 8100. This printer is set to the default
> > > > > > printer. I can print
> > > > > > from data1 but not any of the other computer.  Any
> > > > > > suggestions as to why
> > > > > > this issue occurs.  If someone tries to print an output
> > > > > > they get a filePro
> > > > > > error and then an 1801 error message which means that
> > > > > > the print job is
> > > > > > having issues with the windows defender firewall.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I created an new incoming rule called printers opening
> > > > > > the ports that the
> > > > > > printers are using.  Should I also create an outgoing
> > > > > > rule. No I have not
> > > > > > had my client's test the new firewall rule yet.  I have
> > > > > > not run into this
> > > > > > issue previously.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am accessing the new "server" data1 using GoToMyPC and
> > > > > > have not had a
> > > > > > difficulty creating outputs.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I did not set up this server or configure the other
> > > > > > computers for access.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > filePro is installed in the folder appl which is mapped
> > > > > > as drive L.  The
> > > > > > startup file is:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > echo off
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > rem Run levy Goldbery & stettner program
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > rem Richard Kreiss 03/03/2010
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > set PFDSK=L
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > set PFDATA=L:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > set PFPROG=L:\appl
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > set PFDIR=\appl
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > set PFGLOB=
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > set PFCONFIG=
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > set PFKeyTab=DOS
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > set PFTMP=C:\temp
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > set PATH=%PFPROG%\fp;%path%
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > %pfprog%\fp\p lg_menu
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Any suggestions as to why filePro is not finding the printer?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I may have to have this client upgrade to version 6 and
> > > > > > create PDF's for
> > > > > > printing if all else fails.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Richard Kreiss
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > GCC Consulting
> > > > > > 
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