Printer issue - new

Nancy Palmquist nancy.palmquist at vss3.com
Tue Feb 25 07:18:01 PST 2020 

Jose,

I have to agree.  I just helped a tech that was trying to make a 
parallel printer work for a customer, because it "always worked with the 
old Windows XP" they had.  Suggestion - adjust to a Laser Printer.  
Suggestion ignored, time was spent trying to make it work with some 
crazy printer spoolers.  When the output was still garbled after 2 weeks 
of attempts, in a few hours we moved the system to use a laser printer.  
While wasting money on old tech is the customer's choice, I never 
understand it.

Nancy

On 2/20/2020 10:38 AM, Jose Lerebours via Filepro-list wrote:
> Wouldn't `netcat` be a generic solution to reaching printers across 
> intra/extranet?
>
> Why use USB only printers and then struggle with this!?!  Get a 
> printer that can be given an IP, regardless of the PC it is attached 
> to and use `netcat` in lieu of "print" or "lp".
>
> What am I missing here?
>
> On a side note, when did WIN 10 become a "Server OS"?  We are trying 
> to run away from "complexity" and render our topology worthless.  
> There was a time where one had a "real server" or "servers" and I just 
> do not remember this kind of things being as much of an issue.
>
> It is so nice for us to turn to fpTech for solutions for the problems 
> we create by making bad decisions - We save $$$ and then expect 
> filePro to do things that are only a problem because of the decision 
> we've made.  It is as if to say, well, I am allowed to do a bad 
> infrastructure design and filePro is responsible thus fpTech has to 
> fix it ...
>
> Am I the only one that see something wrong with this?
>
>
> On 2/20/20 9:55 AM, Richard D. Williams via Filepro-list wrote:
>> That's what I thought.
>>
>> If I have a printer on a Linux server I just need to add that to my 
>> config file.
>> Then, anyone can reach it.
>>
>> When a printer is added to the FP Windows config, does not that 
>> printer need to be on each PC?
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> There is no universal way
>>
>> On 2/19/2020 6:31 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
>>> Find, as in actual discovery?  Highly, highly doubtful.  I'd go so 
>>> far as
>>> saying 99.9999%+ unlikely.
>>>
>>> That would require wayyyyy more work than I can ever see fP Tech 
>>> putting
>>> in.  Hell, HP and Brother can't even get that 100% right, and they 
>>> write
>>> the damned drivers for their own printers.  (Literally, HP printers get
>>> lost, and Brother's driver is only fine once you coax it into 
>>> knowing where
>>> the printer is.  It was -not- PnP.  At least the Brother stays
>>> connected, which is more than I could say for the HP.)
>>>
>>> More succinctly: "Hah!  No way in hell do I believe it can do it!"
>>>
>>> m->
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 03:37:44PM -0600, Richard D. Williams via 
>>> Filepro-list thus spoke:
>>>> Does windows filepro have the ability to find a printer not on the 
>>>> users PC?
>>>>
>>>> Richard D. Williams
>>>>
>>>> On 2/19/2020 1:27 PM, Richard Kreiss via Filepro-list wrote:
>>>>> Filepro 5.0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Client installed a new "server" named data1 running Windows 10 Pro 
>>>>> with an
>>>>> HP Printer attached using a USB port labeled virtual porter port 
>>>>> for USB.
>>>>> Printer name is: HP Officejet Pro 8100
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This printer is connected to "server" data1.  In filePro's printer
>>>>> maintenance this printer is named HP-8100 and the destination is 
>>>>> win: HP
>>>>> Officejet Pro 8100. This printer is set to the default printer. I 
>>>>> can print
>>>>> from data1 but not any of the other computer.  Any suggestions as 
>>>>> to why
>>>>> this issue occurs.  If someone tries to print an output they get a 
>>>>> filePro
>>>>> error and then an 1801 error message which means that the print 
>>>>> job is
>>>>> having issues with the windows defender firewall.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I created an new incoming rule called printers opening the ports 
>>>>> that the
>>>>> printers are using.  Should I also create an outgoing rule. No I 
>>>>> have not
>>>>> had my client's test the new firewall rule yet.  I have not run 
>>>>> into this
>>>>> issue previously.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am accessing the new "server" data1 using GoToMyPC and have not 
>>>>> had a
>>>>> difficulty creating outputs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I did not set up this server or configure the other computers for 
>>>>> access.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> filePro is installed in the folder appl which is mapped as drive 
>>>>> L.  The
>>>>> startup file is:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> echo off
>>>>>
>>>>> rem Run levy Goldbery & stettner program
>>>>>
>>>>> rem Richard Kreiss 03/03/2010
>>>>>
>>>>> set PFDSK=L
>>>>>
>>>>> set PFDATA=L:
>>>>>
>>>>> set PFPROG=L:\appl
>>>>>
>>>>> set PFDIR=\appl
>>>>>
>>>>> set PFGLOB=
>>>>>
>>>>> set PFCONFIG=
>>>>>
>>>>> set PFKeyTab=DOS
>>>>>
>>>>> set PFTMP=C:\temp
>>>>>
>>>>> set PATH=%PFPROG%\fp;%path%
>>>>>
>>>>> %pfprog%\fp\p lg_menu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions as to why filePro is not finding the printer?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I may have to have this client upgrade to version 6 and create 
>>>>> PDF's for
>>>>> printing if all else fails.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Kreiss
>>>>>
>>>>> GCC Consulting
>>>>>
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