what do you-all think about bye bye centos and filepro

[Brian K. White]

Deciding what to do, and calling out RedHat's actions are two separate 
things.

I am perfectly capable of basing a system on anything, even systems I 
don't prefer, and so the act does not severely screw me in any way I 
can't handle.

Observing the sequence of events starting from back when RedHat bought 
CentOS, (or really, you could say the pertinent items begin with 
thousands of individuals writing all the GPL software whose license 
terms RedHat accepted back when they first started making a distro, only 
to later decide it's intolerable for someone else to use "their" 
software for free) and the completely predictable and predicted process 
and the motivations behind them and the utter worthlessness of anything 
spoken by RedHat's marketing for years, is it's own valid thing all by 
itself.

It's not even a useless thing, since, if you care about such things, it 
informs you about the character of the people or company you may or may 
not choose to do business with. Maybe no one else is any better, or 
maybe there are other factors, and for one reason or another you decide 
to still do business with them. But it's at the very least still a part 
of the math and the list of considerations.

The shorter way I say all that for my own self is "F those guys".

-- 
bkw


On 12/17/20 4:37 PM, Microlite filePro Mail List via Filepro-list wrote:
> Hmmm.
> Well, after getting over the outrage, and maybe letting a little fear subside, here is my opinion...
>
>
> If you have time and money invested into CentOS 8, just keep going. Even for new installs.
>
> First, you have at least another year to stay with CentOS while they support things just the way they have.
> Second, CentOS 8 is quite solid.
> Third, the Linux business is kind of self-healing. We already have close solutions that require no re-training, and during the next year more solutions will pop up.
>
> We know about Oracle Linux. They designed it to be "Red Hat Enterprise Linux, but we charge less for support if you want it".
> So besides being enterprise-class, you don't have to choose between the "supported or unsupported" path and install separate distributions. You have one distribution and can either get support or not get support. You also get the "Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel" (exercise for the reader) if you want to boot it.
>
> Oracle already has an easy Migration tool (just a script) to get from CentOS 6 or CentOS 7 to Oracle Linux Server 6 or 7. I imagine they are hustling to get it ready for 8.
> Oracle has a full development team (paid) and released Oracle Linux Server 8.3 a full month before CentOS 8.3-2011.
>
>
> Rocky Linux is only the first result of the outrage. The original CentOS founder starting over (well, the living one). Want to bet he gets a nice team of volunteers to do it right? Lots of people are pushing back at what I call the "IBM Effect"). He has a year to get it right, and I'd bet folding money his first project will either have a script similar to the Oracle script for conversion or just an ISO image (DVD) that updates and converts automatically.
>
> Rocky Linux won't be alone as a newly-founded RHEL substitute. Cloud Linux has announced a project. Springdale Linux is out there. More may come.
>
>
> So me, I'm just going to tool along with CentOS 8 until a better pathways opens. We use and support Oracle, SUSE and Ubuntu here at Microlite, and we have developer's Red Hat Enterprise Linux licenses, but CentOS remains our go-to Linux for new projects.
>
> So don't sweat it. The community will figure it out. There is no hurry to make an immediate right-or-left turn or have to re-train yourself.
>
> Have a Merry Christmas, everyone.
> Tom Podnar
> Microlite Corporation
>
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> Subject: what do you-all think about bye bye centos and filepro
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> Hi Experts - what do you-all think about bye bye centos and filepro -
> old tony
>