OT: If I were to list what I've done with filePro & vent how I feel about filePro

Mike Dawson mikedawson at bellsouth.net
Tue Mar 27 15:31:13 PDT 2018


I normally lurk this list for tidbits, but I must interject a few thoughts
on this particular thread.
My fP relationship goes back to the early 1980's.  Tandy, NCR, SCO, Linux...
I solved a bunch of problems with fP and it took our business many levels
higher over the years.
I'm retired now, but still follow....help friends privately when  I can.
That being said......

I get solicitations everyday with the following typical sentiment
presented......
"The bad news is you’re stuck in the 90s. Today’s customers demand
interactive web experiences.
 To deliver, companies need developers who know their way around the front
end of the development stack."

Every single time I hear or read this line of thought, I think of fP.
 
If you still depend on fP sales to make a living,  and your customers have
not implemented a migration plan, "you're stuck in the 90's".
You will retire, they will be left with an expensive migration problem and
will have to eventually go to modern day services.
Successful business models today demand that those businesses change or die.

fP was a fabulous green screen Business Management System/Tool in the 90's.
Robust, manageable, scalable.  Today it's simply an insecure data
manipulation tool at best for the non-programmer.
Don't get me wrong, I love it.  I love the simplicity, the scalability, the
possibilities, the flexibility. 
I never found anything it would not do as long as I was using a *NIX  box in
the process and the USER cmd was available.
For that reason, I've never found any use for the M'soft versions.  No user
cmd.

  That's the problem, the "possibilities" have long gone by the wayside and
the protectionist mindset of the fP owners 
rendered it obsolete years ago by their own actions(inaction) and lack of
vision.  Just who is the visionary today in the fP corporate 
structure?

Years ago I wrote a dedicated MySQL interface in fP that ADDED, DELETED, and
UPDATED tables on the fly.  It was bi-directional with
the assistance of OneGate and fP.  The motivation was insulation from the
insecure nature of fPdata storage practices
as well as the ability to utilize other WEB server based languages that
helped my company keep a modern day appearance.
 It also resulted in data storage redundancy as well as a migration path for
the inevitable.  When combined with OneGate
and PERL, PHP, etc., it was beautiful.  Legacy, met modern day and no one
was the wiser.   We migrated.
 
Bottom line,  change, adapt, overcome.     If fP had any intention of
surviving, growing, succeeding, they would be applauding and
presenting (via forums, meetings, conferences, etc.) these type of how to
examples in an open forum.  They would be publically celebrating these
approaches.  Yet....the silence is deafening.  Sad...very very sad.  Don't
get caught short handed!

My two cents.....alas.

<MD>

  

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Subject: Re: OT: If I were to list what I've done with filePro & vent how I
feel about filePro

I would make the same assumption.  I'd draw the same conclusion.  I'm simply
saying one shouldn't limit one's self to the stock tools.  Bash kind of
sucks as a shell, and I don't limit myself to that, either.  :)

m->

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 04:58:24PM -0400, Bruce Easton via Filepro-list thus
spoke:
> On 3/27/18 1:38 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
> >On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 01:08:45PM -0400, Richard Kreiss via 
> >Filepro-list thus spoke:
> >[..]
> >>The scripting language is far better then the MS batch language. The
> >Perl for Windows exists.  Python for Windows exists.  There's zero 
> >reason to suffer -any- of the MS-specific rubbish any longer.
> >
> Perl is useful of all platforms, but since Richard mentioned batch, 
> I'd have to guess he was comparing batch to *nix shell.  Of course I'd 
> agree on that point.
> 
> --Bruce
> 
> 
> 
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