Bsackup software for Windows server
Jay R. Ashworth
jra at baylink.com
Mon Jan 15 07:49:05 PST 2018
Gotta get Scotty to tune up your sarcasm generators, Bri. :-)
-- j
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian K. White via Filepro-list" <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:10:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Bsackup software for Windows server
> Holy cow. How do you not know what I meant? How is that even possible?
> --
> bkw
>
>
> On 01/10/2018 09:00 PM, Richard Kreiss wrote:
>> Brian,
>>
>> Mark was just stating his opinion and what "HE" has run into in testing
>> various backup options. Keep in mind that this is his opinion.
>>
>> I have found that his analysis on various issues are accurate although you
>> might not like the "tone" as written.
>>
>> Since I have spoken with Mark, I can put his "voice" to what I am reading.
>> That makes a big difference.
>>
>> I value the opinions of each member of the list when they offer it. I can
>> still research what I am asking about and make my own decision. But at
>> least I have a good starting point.
>>
>> One of my clients is using Barracuda (he didn't say if it was one of their
>> appliances or just their software. My client also suggested hiring a
>> company to do the installation and configuration. That is not a simple
>> solution. For the client I am researching for, Barracuda would be overkill.
>>
>> Richard Kreiss
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Filepro-list [mailto:filepro-list-
>>> bounces+rkreiss=verizon.net at lists.celestial.com] On Behalf Of Brian K.
>> White
>>> via Filepro-list
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:30 PM
>>> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
>>> Subject: Re: Bsackup software for Windows server
>>>
>>> What an unhelpful axxhole that Fairlight guy is.
>>> --
>>> bkw
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/10/2018 03:27 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
>>>> I forgot to mention that Reflect is substantially faster than Acronis,
>> even
>>>> when it has to shuffle and consolidate the incrementals.
>>>>
>>>> m->
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 03:15:12PM -0500, Fairlight via Filepro-list
>> thus
>>> spoke:
>>>>> Macrium Reflect.
>>>>>
>>>>> A while back, I was using Acronis TrueImage. It's a PoS which never
>> had
>>>>> working WinPE media (crashed at boot), didn't include your drivers
>> (like
>>>>> custom SATA drivers), and they dumbed down the UI so badly that it was
>> next
>>>>> to useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I needed to switch software, I tried pretty much every solution
>> out
>>>>> there, free and commercial, which seemed promising at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the end, Macrium Reflect was the best engineered, the most stable,
>> and
>>>>> the most versatile. It's got a -slight- learning curve, but it's
>> -well-
>>>>> worth the power, and you can ignore a lot you don't need (like
>> PowerShell
>>>>> extensions). It has a -working- WinPE (actually three, since you get
>> to
>>>>> choose which version of PE you use) which actually drags in all your
>>>>> drivers (including wireless, although WinPE itself can't use wireless
>> at
>>>>> all), which I've verified will see my network storage. And...AND...it
>>>>> actually gives you accurate estimates of operations at the -start- of
>> the
>>>>> backup process. It also has forever incrementals, and you can mount
>> any
>>>>> partition in realtime to grab files off of it as you would with tape,
>> if
>>>>> you need to...from -any- of the incrementals!
>>>>>
>>>>> To contrast, Acronis would take a third of a day to even give me a
>> first
>>>>> estimate of the backup duration. Then, when you'd close the window,
>> you'd
>>>>> have to wait a third of a day again to get the estimate back (it'd be
>> blank
>>>>> again). THAT is how poorly Acronis is written (as were many of the
>>>>> alternatives I demoed). Reflect analyses your disks up-front, and you
>> have
>>>>> an accurate ETA at every step of the way thereafter, which is basically
>>>>> under a minute in on my system. It literally knows the second it's
>> scanned
>>>>> the disk partition tables and filesystem maps, and the count has never
>>>>> jumped around on me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh...and unlike some other solutions which -claim- to use ShadowCopy,
>>>>> Reflect's actually -works-. (I remember one solution which claimed to
>> use
>>>>> it, but which would never back up system files on a live system.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Macrium Reflect or bust. And it's only $75 for the Workstation
>> version.
>>>>> If you get the annual support (a whopping $5 extra...or was it $4?),
>> and
>>>>> they release a new major version, you actually get that version. I got
>>>>> from v6 to v7 by virtue of having that extremely inexpensive support.
>>>>>
>>>>> I won't recommend another product for Windows backups.
>>>>>
>>>>> Go Macrium, or go home.
>>>>>
>>>>> mark->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 07:15:33PM +0000, Richard Kreiss via
>> Filepro-list
>>> thus spoke:
>>>>>> Just want to pole "the List" as to what backup software you would
>>> recommend for w Windows Server?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Kreiss
>>>>>> GCC Consulting
>>>>>>
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