Sorting an array
Jose Lerebours
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Thu May 19 12:31:54 PDT 2016
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The above quoted comment is all I have to say about your personal
attacks! ;-)
On 05/19/2016 02:47 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 12:30:08PM -0400, Jose Lerebours via Filepro-list thus spoke:
>> You need "system" or "user" command to invoke any shell script just
>> the same. As per RAM, lol ...
> But if your shell script uses only internals, it stops there at the first
> bash script. If you load a 7.3MB php binary -every single invocation-,
> even with shared memory in the VMM knocking that down to 218MB per image,
> it adds up. See my other email.
>
> RAM is a finite resource. You may think it's a non-factor based on a
> single-server solution. Take a cluster of 90+ machines all fighting for
> RAM on the same set of compute nodes, and it becomes extremely prudent to
> not waste RAM. You hit a point where you cannot allocate more physical RAM
> because the hardware doesn't support adding more. New compute nodes are
> not a trivial expense.
>
> I think the difference is that I'm talking about coding for an
> enterprise-scale solution, and you're (apparently, I can only pray) talking
> about coding for a hobbyist or small-business solution. Those are two
> different worlds. The difference is that enterprise-grade software should
> scale downwards, while hobbyist and small-business stuff will not
> necessarily scale upwards.
>
> I also learned programming in an era when programmers actually learned
> the systems-level impact of their code. They had to. Most programmers
> these days don't know the underlying systems for which they write, which is
> honestly a travesty.
>
> Commoditisation of programmers was a -bad- idea. The results have
> convinced me that all these "Everyone Can Learn To Code" initiatives
> are a Very Bad Idea[tm] which bode ill for the industry, if they're not
> taught systems as well. Yes, it's an elitist view, but there are very
> good reasons why it -should- be treated with some modicum of elitism Ä or
> there should at least be some assurance that people are properly taught the
> foundations upon which they'll be riding.
>
> I had it good. I had excellent mentors. One of them may have had
> the ethics of a garden slug, but even he drilled incredibly important
> foundational skills into me. You know, -useful- things, like, "Never,
> never, NEVER assume what your environment will be in a non-terminal
> scenario." If I had a dime for every time I've seen someone assume PATH or
> TERM will be set or set correctly under Apache, Sendmail, cron, etc...
>
> mark->
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