License

[Richard D. Williams]

If you are running linux, jhere is a little script to check users who 
are idle over an hour.

chkusers_overhr

#!/bin/bash
clear
w | grep :[0-9][0-9]m

Richard

On 5/21/2012 7:54 AM, Dennis Diller wrote:
> I have figured away to limit concurrent logins by a user.
> I am not using license manager just filepro version 5.6.07D4
> My questions now are.
> 1) What is license manager and it's advantages?
> 2) We have input processing the runs a system command  the runs rreport will
> filepro count this as 1 or 2 users?
> 3) We need to open 2 sessions so that a new user can open up a session and
> use it as a template. So we need
>       2 licenses for 1 user.
> 3) There is no way for filePro to know that the 6 separate logins are
> actually one person.
>      There is no way or they don't care
>      Lets see the same machine the same IP address and the same user ID = the
> same  " user don't count it"
>
> ...5 runtimes would be enough. It isn't. We keep running into a
>> license error issue when we are all trying to work at the same time.
>> FilePro then times out and we have to wait until the system lets us
>> back in. Not an efficient way to run a business.
>>
>> Is this the new licensing?  It used to be that each users sessions
>> were one license.  So is the license for sessions, or users?
>>
>> Jerry Crespi
>
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>>    1. Re: License issue (Kenneth Brody)
>>    2. Re: Filepro-list Digest, Vol 100, Issue 27 (Jerry Crespi)
>>    3. RE: Filepro-list Digest, Vol 100, Issue 27 (GCC Consulting)
>>    4. RE: Filepro-list Digest, Vol 100, Issue 27 (Dennis Malen)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 14:20:17 -0400
>> From: Kenneth Brody<kenbrody at spamcop.net>
>> Subject: Re: License issue
>> To: Dennis Diller<dendil at electricalusa.com>
>> Cc: filepro<filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>> Message-ID:<4FB935E1.1040500 at spamcop.net>
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>> On 5/19/2012 2:33 PM, Dennis Diller wrote:
>>>> At the present time our network is down because of this situation with
>>>> filepro. When the 6th user logs in and attempts to run rclerk (inquire
>>>> up date add) that user gets the error message (user count error). Then
>>>> the users that are already log in when they exit from Rclerk (Inquire
>>>> update Add) They get a blue screen and are lock out and cant log back
>>>> in. the same with the other users.
>> As I said, something is "broken" with your configuration.  When the 6th
>> user
>> attempts to start filePro, they should get the "too many users" error, but
>> this should have no effect on any other user on the system.
>>
>> What version of filePro are you running?
>>
>> Are you using the license manager?
>>
>>>> If the same person on the same pc on the same network with the same IP
>>>> address logs into the server with the same user id and attempts to open
>>>> 6 sessions of filepro Rclerk on  the 6th time the situation will happen
>>>> again. This should be counted as 1 user, filepro should be able to
>>>> determine this and count it as 1,
>> There is no way for filePro to know that the 6 separate logins are
>> actually
>> one person.
>>
>> [...]
>>>> I just wish that our server wouldn't go down just because we log in
>>>> for the 6th time  especially when only 2 people are using Rclerk When
>>>> we were on SCO 5 user license it limited us from logging in more then
>>>> 5.
>> I am not aware of anyone else having this issue.
>>
>>>> I personally  have been on a Verizon card lost connection log back in
>>>> and encounter this because I did not log out properly and filepro
>>>> thinks I'm still log in.
>> My guess is it's not that filePro "thinks" you're still logged in.
>> Typically in those situations, you *are* still logged in.  (Type "who" and
>> you'll see your other login is still there.)  There's not much filePro can
>> do, given that there is no difference from the app side between this and
>> you
>> taking a lunch break.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> -- 
>> Kenneth Brody
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 12:23:18 -0700
>> From: Jerry Crespi<jcrespi at alliedhr.com>
>> Subject: Re: Filepro-list Digest, Vol 100, Issue 27
>> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
>> Message-ID:<20120520193200.6D84620D6BF5 at dorsai-01.celestial.com>
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>> Here is what one of my clients wrote after getting a 5 user Windows
>> runtime.  They have 3 people and each one opens 2 windows.
>>
>> At 03:47 AM 5/20/2012, you wrote:
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 09:29:49 -0400
>>> From: "Dennis Diller"<dendil at electricalusa.com>
>>> Subject: License issue
>>> To:<filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>>> Message-ID:<F69BD715211442CE9DE97E090BA0F575 at ASUS1956>
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>>>
>>>
>>> I have a 5 user license of Filepro  Linux version 5.6
>>> and if I go over the user count filepro locks up, the user loging on gets
>>> the error message
>>> over user count. then all remaining user that are log on gets lock out and
>>> we have to reboot the server to get filepro working again.
>>> I don't understand why the use count isn't counted by the user id or the
>>> machine or IP address.
>>> I have a singe user word and can open is many documents I can only work on
>>> 1
>>> at a time.
>>>
>>> This is a big problem because if a user is log in and left with the
>>> session
>>> opened it counts as 1 license
>>> and if he left with 2 sessions open it counts as 2.  I am  thinking of
>>> upgrading to 5.7 but I see others are
>>> having issue with license and sockets. But having this issue with filepro
>>> locking up when going over the
>>> user count is a real pain.
>>>
>>> example: Someone leave the office with 2 sessions of filepro running both
>>> sessions open with the same ID
>>> same computer and same IP address. They get to a remote location and logs
>>> in
>>> using the same user ID but
>>> a different Computer and IP address. If we went over the user limit
>>> filepro
>>> locks up and any other users log in
>>> will be lock out until the server is rebooted. That means we must contact
>>> someone with root password to do
>>> this and the down time is very upsetting and pain full.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone having a fix for this
>>> Dennis Diller
>>> Office (410) 667-0004
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>> Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 15:54:09 -0400
>> From: "GCC Consulting"<rkreiss at gccconsulting.net>
>> Subject: RE: Filepro-list Digest, Vol 100, Issue 27
>> To: "'Jerry Crespi'"<jcrespi at alliedhr.com>,
>> <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
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>> The filepro license is actually a session license not a user count
>> license.
>>
>> 5 users with 2 open windows running filePro ea = 10 sessions.  Requires a
>> 10
>> user license.
>>
>> This was discussed when the license manager was first implemented.
>>
>> Please keep in mind that until the license manager, the windows version of
>> filePro did not keep track of users or sessions as far as I am aware.
>>
>> On *nix systems the user count was tracked and each instance of either
>> clerk
>> or report run was considered a user count even if report was run from a
>> system call from clerk.
>>
>> With the license manager this changes and the user count is incremented
>> when
>> either a clerk or report is run but not when sitting on a menu.
>>
>> I have a client who needed a 30 user license as his office manage opened 5
>> sessions and he has staff both in his office and who log in remotely.
>>
>> This is how this was implemented and as windows users it is annoying.
>> However filePro is not the only company to have a session count.
>> QuickBooks
>> also uses a session count.
>>
>> I think this issue has kept a lot of people from upgrading.  I have not
>> had
>> this problem with my client's as I have explained this to them  plus they
>> needed some of the upgrades which 5.6 and now 5.7 offer.  It is a
>> trade-off
>> that one needs to be aware of.
>>
>>
>> Richard Kreiss
>> GCC Consulting
>>
>> Office: 410-653-2813
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: filepro-list-bounces+rkreiss=verizon.net at lists.celestial.com
>>> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+rkreiss=verizon.net at lists.celestial.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Jerry Crespi
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:23 PM
>>> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
>>> Subject: Re: Filepro-list Digest, Vol 100, Issue 27
>>>
>>> Here is what one of my clients wrote after getting a 5 user Windows
>> runtime.
>>> They have 3 people and each one opens 2 windows.
>>>
>>> ...5 runtimes would be enough. It isn't. We keep running into a license
>> error
>>> issue when we are all trying to work at the same time.
>>> FilePro then times out and we have to wait until the system lets us back
>> in. Not
>>> an efficient way to run a business.
>>>
>>> Is this the new licensing?  It used to be that each users sessions were
>> one
>>> license.  So is the license for sessions, or users?
>>>
>>> Jerry Crespi
>>>
>>> At 03:47 AM 5/20/2012, you wrote:
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 09:29:49 -0400
>>>> From: "Dennis Diller"<dendil at electricalusa.com>
>>>> Subject: License issue
>>>> To:<filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>>>> Message-ID:<F69BD715211442CE9DE97E090BA0F575 at ASUS1956>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>          reply-type=original
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a 5 user license of Filepro  Linux version 5.6 and if I go over
>>>> the user count filepro locks up, the user loging on gets the error
>>>> message over user count. then all remaining user that are log on gets
>>>> lock out and we have to reboot the server to get filepro working again.
>>>> I don't understand why the use count isn't counted by the user id or
>>>> the machine or IP address.
>>>> I have a singe user word and can open is many documents I can only work
>>>> on 1 at a time.
>>>>
>>>> This is a big problem because if a user is log in and left with the
>>>> session opened it counts as 1 license and if he left with 2 sessions
>>>> open it counts as 2.  I am  thinking of upgrading to 5.7 but I see
>>>> others are having issue with license and sockets. But having this issue
>>>> with filepro locking up when going over the user count is a real pain.
>>>>
>>>> example: Someone leave the office with 2 sessions of filepro running
>>>> both sessions open with the same ID same computer and same IP address.
>>>> They get to a remote location and logs in using the same user ID but a
>>>> different Computer and IP address. If we went over the user limit
>>>> filepro locks up and any other users log in will be lock out until the
>>>> server is rebooted. That means we must contact someone with root
>>>> password to do this and the down time is very upsetting and pain full.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone having a fix for this
>>>> Dennis Diller
>>>> Office (410) 667-0004
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>> Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 17:25:28 -0400
>> From: "Dennis Malen"<dmalen at malen.com>
>> Subject: RE: Filepro-list Digest, Vol 100, Issue 27
>> To: "'Jerry Crespi'"<jcrespi at alliedhr.com>,
>> <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
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>> We have discussed this before and many of us would upgrade if licensing
>> were
>> based upon each user. We have a minimum of two  windows open and many
>> times
>> each user has 3 - 5 windows open to access different aspect of filepro
>> information.
>>
>> It works great and I love filePro but the new licensing prevents most of
>> us
>> from upgrading.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: filepro-list-bounces+dmalen=malen.com at lists.celestial.com
>> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+dmalen=malen.com at lists.celestial.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Jerry Crespi
>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:23 PM
>> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
>> Subject: Re: Filepro-list Digest, Vol 100, Issue 27
>>
>> Here is what one of my clients wrote after getting a 5 user Windows
>> runtime.
>> They have 3 people and each one opens 2 windows.
>>
>> ...5 runtimes would be enough. It isn't. We keep running into a license
>> error issue when we are all trying to work at the same time.
>> FilePro then times out and we have to wait until the system lets us back
>> in.
>> Not an efficient way to run a business.
>>
>> Is this the new licensing?  It used to be that each users sessions were
>> one
>> license.  So is the license for sessions, or users?
>>
>> Jerry Crespi
>>
>> At 03:47 AM 5/20/2012, you wrote:
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 09:29:49 -0400
>>> From: "Dennis Diller"<dendil at electricalusa.com>
>>> Subject: License issue
>>> To:<filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>>> Message-ID:<F69BD715211442CE9DE97E090BA0F575 at ASUS1956>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>          reply-type=original
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a 5 user license of Filepro  Linux version 5.6 and if I go over
>>> the user count filepro locks up, the user loging on gets the error
>>> message over user count. then all remaining user that are log on gets
>>> lock out and we have to reboot the server to get filepro working again.
>>> I don't understand why the use count isn't counted by the user id or
>>> the machine or IP address.
>>> I have a singe user word and can open is many documents I can only work
>>> on 1 at a time.
>>>
>>> This is a big problem because if a user is log in and left with the
>>> session opened it counts as 1 license and if he left with 2 sessions
>>> open it counts as 2.  I am  thinking of upgrading to 5.7 but I see
>>> others are having issue with license and sockets. But having this issue
>>> with filepro locking up when going over the user count is a real pain.
>>>
>>> example: Someone leave the office with 2 sessions of filepro running
>>> both sessions open with the same ID same computer and same IP address.
>>> They get to a remote location and logs in using the same user ID but a
>>> different Computer and IP address. If we went over the user limit
>>> filepro locks up and any other users log in will be lock out until the
>>> server is rebooted. That means we must contact someone with root
>>> password to do this and the down time is very upsetting and pain full.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone having a fix for this
>>> Dennis Diller
>>> Office (410) 667-0004
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