FilePro Questions?

Scott Walker ScottWalker at RAMSystemsCorp.com
Tue Mar 20 10:17:04 PDT 2012 

But that is asking for a change.  Each filePro "session" has always counted
toward the filePro "user count".  Plus a big advantage (as I understand it)
with version 5.6 and above is that any instance of rrclerk or rreport called
from a system command do NOT count toward the filePro "user count".  If you
are doing any kind of drill down stuff where you call one process from
within another process using the system command to start the rclerk or
rreport process whould benefit from this a lot.

The user count is therefor more liberal in 5.6 and 5.7 then it was in 5.0,
so that IS NOT a reason not to update to 5.7.

Regards,

Scott



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Malen [mailto:dmalen at malen.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 12:39 PM
> To: 'Scott Walker'; filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Subject: RE: FilePro Questions?
> 
> I too have considered upgrading, as many of the new utilities are a must
> have for me. The problem I always run up against is that many of our users
> may have to open from 1 to 5 windows. They are very use to this luxury and
> anything less would clearly affect productivity. I would need a user
> license as opposed to a session license.
> 
> Dennis Malen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: filepro-list-bounces+dmalen=malen.com at lists.celestial.com
> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+dmalen=malen.com at lists.celestial.com] On
> Behalf Of Scott Walker
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 10:55 PM
> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Subject: FW: FilePro Questions?
> 
> 
> 
> Brian,
> 
> I respect your opinion, so if you would can you elaborate on the problems
> you had with the license manager.  Most of my customers are at 5.0.14 and
> I really want to use some of the stuff in 5.7 so I ordered the development
> license a few weeks back.  I am a bit wary of the license manager since in
> the last 20 years or so I just have not had to deal with it.
> 
> 
> 
> I actually think it was put in 5.6 to start.  Then when they released
> 5.0.15 it had the license manager in it which I don't think was a fair
> thing to do, since in order to get bug fixes for the 5.0 series you had to
> have the license manager, which on some of my customers old systems would
> just not run.  Since it's been a long time since 5.6 came out, maybe the
> license manager has been made more solid?  Do you object to it on a
> philosophical basis, or would you be OK with it if it did not cause
> problems?
> 
> Would your company order a bunch of filePro updates over the next 6 months
> if you could get the current version without the license manager?  Maybe
> Bud would listen to the concerns if enough people said to him "We will
> order X number of copies of 5.7 tomorrow if you offer it without the
> license manager".
> 
> Maybe Ken could talk about the prior issues with the license manager and
> the current state of it.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> >BKW said:
> > 5.0.13 is the last version without the license manager and the last
> >version we will run. We tried newer versions and the manager injected
> >more  and worse problems than any of the improvements took away. As
> >much as I'd  like some of the features, the license manager makes it a
> non-starter.
> >
> > --
> > bkw
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Jay Ashworth" <jra at baylink.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 7:53pm
> > To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> > Subject: Re: FilePro Questions?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: melancon at cajun.net
> >
> > > Gulf Island QC is having problems with losing network connection and
> > > FilePro not handling it too well. Had some missing or corrupt data.
> >
> > Yup; database apps are singularly intolerant of network problems,
> > "reliable transport" or no.
> >
> > > IT claims the version of FilePro we are running is old and needs to
> > > be upgraded.
> >
> > Maybe, but not for this reason.
> >
> > > I feel it may be hardware such as a bad switch that could possibly
> > > causing the problem. Some user are having more problems than others.
> >
> > You are almost certainly correct.
> >
> > Download WinMTR and run it on each workstation against the IP of the
> > fileserver, for, say, 5-10 minutes per machine.  Any problems should
> > be immediately apparent.
> >
> > > Would upgrade to FilePro 5.7 help improve network communications?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > > Is my 5.0 not capable of dealing with newer servers?
> >
> > There are some very uncommon circumstances where you might see
> > specific network apps have trouble with newer file servers, but if
> > your *client* OSs are up to date as well, it's maybe .01% or less.
> >
> > > Should I upgrade to 5.7?
> >
> > Now, this is a much more nuanced question.
> >
> > Since, unlike Ken, I am *not* employed by FPtech, I can point out that
> > 5.0.14 is probably the last version *before* all the crappy stupid
> > license manager garbage got included.  [Checks]  No, I'm wrong; 5.0.14
> > *has* it, so there's probably no reason except money not to upgrade.
> >
> > > Can I still use 5.0, now that Window 7 is here?
> >
> > I'm relatively certain that answer's yes as well.
> >
> > > I appreciate any feedback? I truly feel there is nothing wrong with
> > > my
> > > 5.0 version and IT is just making excuses.......
> >
> > Off the top of my head, I agree with you, but you failed to mention
> > one very important fact for the diagnosis:
> >
> > Was your network *functioning well on all the OSs and hardware it's
> > currently on, and then went downhill*?
> >
> > Or did something get upgraded, and *then* everything went in the toilet?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -- jra
> > --
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