FilePro Questions?
Dennis Malen
dmalen at malen.com
Tue Mar 20 09:38:34 PDT 2012
I too have considered upgrading, as many of the new utilities are a must
have for me. The problem I always run up against is that many of our users
may have to open from 1 to 5 windows. They are very use to this luxury and
anything less would clearly affect productivity. I would need a user license
as opposed to a session license.
Dennis Malen
-----Original Message-----
From: filepro-list-bounces+dmalen=malen.com at lists.celestial.com
[mailto:filepro-list-bounces+dmalen=malen.com at lists.celestial.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Walker
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 10:55 PM
To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
Subject: FW: FilePro Questions?
Brian,
I respect your opinion, so if you would can you elaborate on the problems
you had with the license manager. Most of my customers are at 5.0.14 and I
really want to use some of the stuff in 5.7 so I ordered the development
license a few weeks back. I am a bit wary of the license manager since in
the last 20 years or so I just have not had to deal with it.
I actually think it was put in 5.6 to start. Then when they released 5.0.15
it had the license manager in it which I don't think was a fair thing to do,
since in order to get bug fixes for the 5.0 series you had to have the
license manager, which on some of my customers old systems would just not
run. Since it's been a long time since 5.6 came out, maybe the license
manager has been made more solid? Do you object to it on a philosophical
basis, or would you be OK with it if it did not cause problems?
Would your company order a bunch of filePro updates over the next 6 months
if you could get the current version without the license manager? Maybe Bud
would listen to the concerns if enough people said to him "We will order X
number of copies of 5.7 tomorrow if you offer it without the license
manager".
Maybe Ken could talk about the prior issues with the license manager and the
current state of it.
Regards,
Scott
>BKW said:
> 5.0.13 is the last version without the license manager and the last
>version we will run. We tried newer versions and the manager injected
>more and worse problems than any of the improvements took away. As
>much as I'd like some of the features, the license manager makes it a
non-starter.
>
> --
> bkw
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Jay Ashworth" <jra at baylink.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 7:53pm
> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Subject: Re: FilePro Questions?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: melancon at cajun.net
>
> > Gulf Island QC is having problems with losing network connection and
> > FilePro not handling it too well. Had some missing or corrupt data.
>
> Yup; database apps are singularly intolerant of network problems,
> "reliable transport" or no.
>
> > IT claims the version of FilePro we are running is old and needs to
> > be upgraded.
>
> Maybe, but not for this reason.
>
> > I feel it may be hardware such as a bad switch that could possibly
> > causing the problem. Some user are having more problems than others.
>
> You are almost certainly correct.
>
> Download WinMTR and run it on each workstation against the IP of the
> fileserver, for, say, 5-10 minutes per machine. Any problems should
> be immediately apparent.
>
> > Would upgrade to FilePro 5.7 help improve network communications?
>
> No.
>
> > Is my 5.0 not capable of dealing with newer servers?
>
> There are some very uncommon circumstances where you might see
> specific network apps have trouble with newer file servers, but if
> your *client* OSs are up to date as well, it's maybe .01% or less.
>
> > Should I upgrade to 5.7?
>
> Now, this is a much more nuanced question.
>
> Since, unlike Ken, I am *not* employed by FPtech, I can point out that
> 5.0.14 is probably the last version *before* all the crappy stupid
> license manager garbage got included. [Checks] No, I'm wrong; 5.0.14
> *has* it, so there's probably no reason except money not to upgrade.
>
> > Can I still use 5.0, now that Window 7 is here?
>
> I'm relatively certain that answer's yes as well.
>
> > I appreciate any feedback? I truly feel there is nothing wrong with
> > my
> > 5.0 version and IT is just making excuses.......
>
> Off the top of my head, I agree with you, but you failed to mention
> one very important fact for the diagnosis:
>
> Was your network *functioning well on all the OSs and hardware it's
> currently on, and then went downhill*?
>
> Or did something get upgraded, and *then* everything went in the toilet?
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> --
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