c language

Wed Jan 20 08:31:52 PST 2010

Yes, that's very interesting.  I kind of knew you could run any app on the
Windows based phones.... but that always seemed so "small" to me. In fact,
on the tiny little handheld OQO computer it was essentially useless it was
so small.  A native app on any big screen device like an Phone was what I
thought would sell pretty good.   Also, the Phone and Nextel and a couple
others have ready to go bar code recognition hardware in them already, or
rather as an add-on.

You know I guess that in the very near future the line will be blurring
along handheld devices. As Fairlight used to bitch, he only wanted his phone
to be a phone, etc.  These days and coming on soon, I don't think you will
be able to break out any of the smaller apps (like Phone, GPS, Mail,
Database, etc.) from the encompassing device.  It will all be some level of
a full mobile platform  (Apple or Intel, or Sun, among others ) and then it
will be years of building conventions along those lines.  By the time that
all falls out, they will have figured how to insert the entire works into a
chips on your wrist and near your ear.  Maybe they'll get a chip going for
the crotch as well so it can pee for us. :-)  But, wait, the greeners will
have it capturing the outflow and recycling it into potable water like the
Fremen  still suit.  Jeez, I was trying to be funny, but this is morbidly
close to possible....  I'm kind of glad I'm getting old. ;-)

John

  _____  

From: Richard Kreiss [mailto:rkreiss at verizon.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:56 AM
To: john at valar.com; 'ROBERT PULLIAM'
Cc: 'filepro'
Subject: RE: c language

John,

One of my clients is accessing his filepro using a Samsung phone running
Windows mobile with a touch screen.  They are accessing their Windows system
with a version of terminal server that runs on windows mobile.  The program
runs almost as fast as when working locally since it is running on the
server not the phone.

One does need the touch screen as this allow better placement of the filepro
screens on the phone.  They have used this to show their prospective clients
what the system looks like.  Makes an interesting sales tool.

This might be an interesting i-phone app for fptech to develop.  Come to
think of it, a Droid app may also be good.

However, if you remember correctly, at the Philadelphia meeting, we were
shown an "almost complete" phone app for accessing filepro.  Wonder what
happened to it.  Maybe it is in the same place as XML.

An app that can run filepro on an I-phone might help  sales of filepro as it
would probably run faster than many of the gui databases.

Richard Kreiss
GCC Consulting

rkreiss at gccconsulting.net

From: filepro-list-bounces+rkreiss=verizon.net at lists.celestial.com
[mailto:filepro-list-bounces+rkreiss=verizon.net at lists.celestial.com] On
Behalf Of John Esak
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 3:42 PM
To: 'ROBERT PULLIAM'
Cc: 'filepro'
Subject: RE: c language

Good idea. I always wanted to write for the I-Phone... I can think of 100's
of things I'd like myself.

I think for $99 you can buy into the I-Phone dev program. They send you  an
apparently phenomenal development kit that lets (and helps) you write
amazing programs... and I don't think much knowledge of any low level
language is required.... certainly not C.  Obviously, being able to hook
into some C  routines might be very helpful, but the few videos I've seen on
the SDK make it seem like child's play. :-)  Of course, it isn't.  But, if
you are writing any apps at all, I think the $99 should be your first
investment.  That also gives you a hook into providing the app for their
millions of users, where they get some $$ and you get some $$ all laid out
up front and easy.  

Honestly, if I had the sight, I would spend the next year writing a filePro
access program for the I-Phone.  There is just enough of a niche market to
sell a couple hundred copies at good bucks each.  Hell, I'd pay $250 to be
able to access my filePro apps wirelessly from anywhere.  Maybe even more.
If it stayed locked to the I-Phone even and wasn't portable to any of the
other handheld GUI devices coming out, it would still be worth it. It would
be so cool to have a clerk/report app for our cherished database.  Of
course, it would be amazing to have the screen designer and report designer
available to end-users as well...  Okay, enough dreaming.  Sounds like a job
for ken or Ron.

John

P.S. - While you're at it guys... warehouse/bar code reading interface also
please... thanks.  Just let me know when they're ready.

Remember, this is a time when the apps can cost more than the device by
far!!!  Go for it.

  _____  

From: ROBERT PULLIAM [mailto:pulliamr at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:11 PM
To: john at valar.com
Subject: Re: c language

I am working on an iPhone app and need some knowledge of C.   thanks for the
response.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: John Esak <mailto:john at valar.com>  

To: 'ROBERT  <mailto:pulliamr at earthlink.net> PULLIAM' ; 'filepro'
<mailto:filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>  

Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 3:56 PM

Subject: RE: c language

Well, it's a matter of using a "comiler" for the platform on which you are
working.  If you have the development system on SCO, then you have the "cc"
command which is what you would use to turn your C scripts into  executale
programs.  By default, if you use cc to compile a script (bunch of code) it
will be turned into an execcutable called "a.out".  If you were to run
"a.out" it would run whatever that script says to do. 

So, you need to find a compiler for the Windows box you wish to learn on, or
get the devsys for your SCO box which contains a compiler.  

C is not an easy language to learn quickly.  I would suggest learning Python
instead. It is as powerful as anything out there and is much like C in that
it is extremely portable from Windows to *nix.  If, you really have a need
to learn C particularly, I would suggest getting a Visual C book which will
make a lot available to you right away.  Still, you will not be
accomplishing a whole lot in any short period of time.

Good luck whatever you do.  Any specific reason you are deciding to take up
C?  

John

  _____  

From: filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.com
[mailto:filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.com] On Behalf
Of ROBERT PULLIAM
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:35 AM
To: filepro
Subject: c language

I am a novice programmer and purchased a book on programing in c.  Is there
a way to do this on a windows machine or a mac so that I can compile and run
the programs in the tutorial portion of the booki.  Also I tried it in a
unix box (sco) and that will not work.

Thanks Robert PUlliam MD

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: winmail.dat
Type: application/ms-tnef
Size: 14038 bytes
Desc: not available
Url : http://mailman.celestial.com/pipermail/filepro-list/attachments/20100120/8ccdfece/attachment-0001.bin 