Cloud Computing security issues

[John Esak]

So now I know why my parents and everyone was always telling me to get my
head out of the cloueds... :-)

This is the same sort of jurusdictional hassle they've always had with
taxes, tarriffs, royalties, etc., when worked through the net. If you buy
something digital from a company based in California and you are in New
Jersey, and thing you're buying comes from England... ???  It's all been
gone over and over for decades, but I'm willing to bet millions, maybe
billions of dollars are misdirected/uncollected/unknown.

By the way, I hate to say it, but once in awhile you hear something from an
otherwise reputable source and yet is just doesn't ring true.  One of the
statements in this little cloud movie, was that the FBI seazed some
records/servers whatever while trying to get something they needed from a
company under investigation, and in doing so put 50 other companies out of
buisness.  Sorry, don't believe that... It is an outrageous statement
really.  If 50 companies were put out of business accidentally by the FBI,
it would have been national news for several news cycles... And I haven't
missed a half a dozen news cycles in the past decade.  Don't remember it.  

Unless, maybe the girl or writer was using the term very loosely to mean
"put out of business" for the time that their servers were confiscated/down
etc.  This sounds more possible.... But either way, they must have been 50
very obscure, unimportant companies to have had even this much hassle from
the FBI accidentally.  

I don't believe everything I hear anymore.... I think I may have at some
point in my much younger life.  Especially, slick pieces like this, which
have the sound of an ifomercial for something or another, maybe Gartner
itself in this case.  Who knows.  

The idea of having no idea where your data is being stored even as to
country... That doesn't ring true either.  I see there is a problem they are
describing here, but I think they have exaggerated the premises for the
problem a little.

The single most importatn idea that might impact any of us, is the fact that
if the FBI or any authority was to confiscate (bring down) a server that we
are paying to rol-locate our data/programs... And that server has *9other*
customers on it besides me, then yes, that could certainly be aproblem. I
think it's a matter of procedure though, not of jurusdiction.  My web server
is leased at Verio. I have complete control of my virtual server, I can even
reboot it. But, I can not reboot the whole actual hardware server or anyone
else's virtual server.  You would think the FBI could grab my entire data
space without affecting anything else, or anyone else.  Admittedly, I'm not
working my web page in a cloud situation, but I'm certain that even huge
companies that run cloud based stuff like Amazon, eBay, etc., must run
through systems that keep *some* idea of how the data is being moved around
the cloud architecture. I mean these are computers we are taling about after
all... I bet someone knows where every chargeable clock cycle is and who is
to be billed.  Don't you think so?

John


> -----Original Message-----
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> m] On Behalf Of Richard Kreiss
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:51 PM
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> Subject: OT: Cloud Computing security issues
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> I am sure some of you have already seen this but thought for 
> those that
> haven't, it would be enlightening
> 
> Jurisdiction and the Cloud
> Moving data to the cloud could cause some law enforcement headaches.
> 
> WATCH NOW:
> http://web.eweek.com/t?ctl=83752:0B3D0FD730F404920C4A677CD2F70E3E&
> 
> 
> Richard Kreiss 
> 
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