(OT) screen garbled BackupEdge install on OSR 5.0.7
Bill Campbell
bill at celestial.com
Wed Feb 4 08:45:53 PST 2009
On Wed, Feb 04, 2009, Brian K. White wrote:
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Fairlight" <fairlite at fairlite.com>
>To: <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 5:59 PM
>Subject: Re: (OT) screen garbled BackupEdge install on OSR 5.0.7
>
>> Confusious (Alias for filepro) say:
>>> Hi Bill.
>>>
>>> My recollection is that XTERM from SCO and Linux have very little relation
>>> from a capabilities and terminfo standpoint.
>>
>> I'd have to look at the entries to back up any technical claims to the
>> contrary, but anecdotally, xterm is the one entry I can actually depend on
>> working more or less correctly with PuTTY--surpassing vt100 by far in terms
>> of stability and usability. It's been my experience that xterm is the best
>> one to try. Obviously it's not working so well for Bill, but I surely
>> wouldn't hold out hope for SCO's vt100 emulation doing a better job. :/
>
>The xterm termcap and terminfo entries on SCO boxen are correct for SCO's
>default ancient X11R5, which is somewhat different from everyone elses
>X11R6. My experience has een the opposite of yours. xterm being almost as
>meaningless as a "definition" as "ansi" where several vendors all have
>slightly different versions, and where even within one platform the
>definition changes over time from x11r5, x11r6, xfree86<=3.something,
>xfre86>3.something, xorg.
I have my own termcap file using TERMCAP=/usr/local/etc/termcap
that has proper xterm termcap definitions for modern termcaps
along with some slightly customized fp/termcap files to deal with
some wierd terminals I have encountered over the years.
All the SCO systems we support are accessed either from OS X,
Linux, or the Microsoft Virus, Windows, very rarely from anything
that uses SCO's ancient xterm.
>I have run into backupedge and specifically the recoveredge2 subcompoent
>going into a mismatched alternate character set mode too. I get proper
>behaviour in BE on OSR5 when I'm using a terminal that is _accurately_
>defined by the terminfo on the sco box.
>This basically means a good scoansi emulator with either a latin-1 or a
>cp437 font loaded, depending on the current setting of mapchan in your
>session on the sco box (cp437 if you had run "mapchan -n" in profile or if
>/etc/ttys for your tty defines no character set trnslation). putty
>qualifies as "good enough" with the right settings, where "the right
>settings" depends on what font you're using, or FacetWin or Anzio.
I think that some OS X users are using Powerterm to access SCO
systems (is that right Rodgers?).
Personally I can't stand the color things that happen with
scoterm and scoansi, much preferring simple monochrome in
xterms.
>Or it means installing my own rxvt and linux termcap & terminfo definitions
>on the sco box first, and, ofcourse, there is a difference between
>rxvt<=2.6 and rxvt>2.6 -sigh- Coming from one of the dozen different xterm-
>like apps on a linux box, to a sco box, and setting TERM=xterm, is no good.
>And of course there is no linux definition on sco, and setting TERM=vt220
>when your term is really linux _should_ be good enough in most cases but
>it's not.
>In BE , if you're looking at the garbled screen, you can blindly navigate
>to the bottom option on the top-left menu, which is "exit" in most apps
>including this one.
>You can them blindly type in "tput rmacs" to get back out of alt char set
>mode.
Been there, done that.
>If you're using putty from a windows desk you can:
>Install the Andale Mono font (one of the microsoft core fonts that you can
>download the installer from sourceforge, look for andale32.exe) this is a
>fixed-width font with cp437 characters.
>Install this registry entry which contains a template putty session with
>good settings for OSR5 sco ansi. SCO_SSH.reg:
Yuck!
>---snip---
>Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>
>[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\SimonTatham\PuTTY\Sessions\SCO_SSH]
>"Present"=dword:00000001
>"HostName"=""
>"LogFileName"="putty.log"
>"LogType"=dword:00000000
>"LogFileClash"=dword:ffffffff
>"LogFlush"=dword:00000001
>"SSHLogOmitPasswords"=dword:00000001
>"SSHLogOmitData"=dword:00000000
>"Protocol"="ssh"
>"PortNumber"=dword:00000016
>"CloseOnExit"=dword:00000001
>"WarnOnClose"=dword:00000001
>"PingInterval"=dword:00000003
>"PingIntervalSecs"=dword:00000014
>"TCPNoDelay"=dword:00000001
>"TCPKeepalives"=dword:00000000
>"TerminalType"="ansi"
>"TerminalSpeed"="38400,38400"
>"AddressFamily"=dword:00000000
>"ProxyExcludeList"=""
>"ProxyDNS"=dword:00000001
>"ProxyLocalhost"=dword:00000000
>"ProxyMethod"=dword:00000000
>"ProxyHost"="proxy"
>"ProxyPort"=dword:00000050
>"ProxyUsername"=""
>"ProxyPassword"=""
>"ProxyTelnetCommand"="connect %host %port\\n"
>"Environment"=""
>"UserName"=""
>"LocalUserName"=""
>"NoPTY"=dword:00000000
>"Compression"=dword:00000000
>"AgentFwd"=dword:00000000
>"ChangeUsername"=dword:00000000
>"Cipher"="blowfish,WARN,aes,3des,des"
>"KEX"="dh-gex-sha1,dh-group14-sha1,dh-group1-sha1,WARN"
>"RekeyTime"=dword:0000003c
>"RekeyBytes"="1G"
>"AuthTIS"=dword:00000000
>"AuthKI"=dword:00000001
>"SshNoShell"=dword:00000000
>"SshProt"=dword:00000003
>"SSH2DES"=dword:00000000
>"PublicKeyFile"=""
>"RemoteCommand"=""
>"RFCEnviron"=dword:00000000
>"PassiveTelnet"=dword:00000000
>"BackspaceIsDelete"=dword:00000000
>"RXVTHomeEnd"=dword:00000000
>"LinuxFunctionKeys"=dword:00000005
>"NoApplicationKeys"=dword:00000000
>"NoApplicationCursors"=dword:00000000
>"NoMouseReporting"=dword:00000000
>"NoRemoteResize"=dword:00000000
>"NoAltScreen"=dword:00000000
>"NoRemoteWinTitle"=dword:00000000
>"NoRemoteQTitle"=dword:00000001
>"NoDBackspace"=dword:00000000
>"NoRemoteCharset"=dword:00000000
>"ApplicationCursorKeys"=dword:00000000
>"ApplicationKeypad"=dword:00000000
>"NetHackKeypad"=dword:00000000
>"AltF4"=dword:00000000
>"AltSpace"=dword:00000000
>"AltOnly"=dword:00000000
>"ComposeKey"=dword:00000000
>"CtrlAltKeys"=dword:00000001
>"TelnetKey"=dword:00000000
>"TelnetRet"=dword:00000001
>"LocalEcho"=dword:00000002
>"LocalEdit"=dword:00000002
>"Answerback"="PuTTY"
>"AlwaysOnTop"=dword:00000000
>"FullScreenOnAltEnter"=dword:00000001
>"HideMousePtr"=dword:00000000
>"SunkenEdge"=dword:00000000
>"WindowBorder"=dword:00000001
>"CurType"=dword:00000000
>"BlinkCur"=dword:00000000
>"Beep"=dword:00000001
>"BeepInd"=dword:00000000
>"BellWaveFile"=""
>"BellOverload"=dword:00000001
>"BellOverloadN"=dword:00000005
>"BellOverloadT"=dword:000007d0
>"BellOverloadS"=dword:00001388
>"ScrollbackLines"=dword:00000000
>"DECOriginMode"=dword:00000000
>"AutoWrapMode"=dword:00000001
>"LFImpliesCR"=dword:00000000
>"DisableArabicShaping"=dword:00000000
>"DisableBidi"=dword:00000000
>"WinNameAlways"=dword:00000001
>"WinTitle"=""
>"TermWidth"=dword:00000050
>"TermHeight"=dword:00000019
>"Font"="Andale Mono"
>"FontIsBold"=dword:00000000
>"FontCharSet"=dword:00000000
>"FontHeight"=dword:00000012
>"FontVTMode"=dword:00000001
>"UseSystemColours"=dword:00000000
>"TryPalette"=dword:00000000
>"ANSIColour"=dword:00000001
>"Xterm256Colour"=dword:00000001
>"BoldAsColour"=dword:00000001
>"Colour0"="187,187,187"
>"Colour1"="255,255,255"
>"Colour2"="0,0,0"
>"Colour3"="85,85,85"
>"Colour4"="0,0,0"
>"Colour5"="0,255,0"
>"Colour6"="0,0,0"
>"Colour7"="85,85,85"
>"Colour8"="187,0,0"
>"Colour9"="255,85,85"
>"Colour10"="0,187,0"
>"Colour11"="85,255,85"
>"Colour12"="187,187,0"
>"Colour13"="255,255,85"
>"Colour14"="0,0,187"
>"Colour15"="85,85,255"
>"Colour16"="187,0,187"
>"Colour17"="255,85,255"
>"Colour18"="0,187,187"
>"Colour19"="85,255,255"
>"Colour20"="187,187,187"
>"Colour21"="255,255,255"
>"RawCNP"=dword:00000000
>"PasteRTF"=dword:00000000
>"MouseIsXterm"=dword:00000000
>"RectSelect"=dword:00000000
>"MouseOverride"=dword:00000001
>"Wordness0"="0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0"
>"Wordness32"="0,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1"
>"Wordness64"="1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,2"
>"Wordness96"="1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1"
>"Wordness128"="1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1"
>"Wordness160"="1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1"
>"Wordness192"="2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2"
>"Wordness224"="2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2"
>"LineCodePage"="CP437"
>"CJKAmbigWide"=dword:00000000
>"UTF8Override"=dword:00000001
>"Printer"=""
>"CapsLockCyr"=dword:00000000
>"ScrollBar"=dword:00000000
>"ScrollBarFullScreen"=dword:00000000
>"ScrollOnKey"=dword:00000000
>"ScrollOnDisp"=dword:00000000
>"EraseToScrollback"=dword:00000000
>"LockSize"=dword:00000002
>"BCE"=dword:00000001
>"BlinkText"=dword:00000000
>"X11Forward"=dword:00000000
>"X11Display"="localhost:0"
>"X11AuthType"=dword:00000001
>"LocalPortAcceptAll"=dword:00000000
>"RemotePortAcceptAll"=dword:00000000
>"PortForwardings"=""
>"BugIgnore1"=dword:00000000
>"BugPlainPW1"=dword:00000000
>"BugRSA1"=dword:00000000
>"BugHMAC2"=dword:00000000
>"BugDeriveKey2"=dword:00000000
>"BugRSAPad2"=dword:00000000
>"BugPKSessID2"=dword:00000000
>"StampUtmp"=dword:00000001
>"LoginShell"=dword:00000001
>"ScrollbarOnLeft"=dword:00000000
>"BoldFont"=""
>"BoldFontIsBold"=dword:01000000
>"BoldFontCharSet"=dword:00000007
>"BoldFontHeight"=dword:00000000
>"WideFont"=""
>"WideFontIsBold"=dword:00000000
>"WideFontCharSet"=dword:0012c418
>"WideFontHeight"=dword:00000004
>"WideBoldFont"=""
>"WideBoldFontIsBold"=dword:00000000
>"WideBoldFontCharSet"=dword:00000000
>"WideBoldFontHeight"=dword:00000000
>"ShadowBold"=dword:00000000
>"ShadowBoldOffset"=dword:00000001
>---snip---
>
>Launch putty, load the new "SCO_SSH" session, manually enter the host address,
>
>Then once on the remote system, depeding on what's in your /etc/default/mapchan, /etc/profile, and ~/.profile you might possibly still need to manually run:
>mapchan -n
>and
>TERM=ansi
>Unlikely you'll need to, but harmless to do whether it was needed or not.
>At this point you should have a fully working terminal including colors,
>alternate character sets, F-keys, Del key for break, backspace that works
>as expected, etc...
>I just ran through exactly these steps and fired up edgemenu and navigated
>to the recoveredge screens too and I can find no glitches.
>Part of this is the TERM=ansi specifically uses an reduced ansi definition
>in the default termcap & terminfo, which is different from BOTH scoansi-new
>and scoansi-old. scoansi is just an alias for either -old or -new depending
>on what settings you chose when/if you ever ran "mkdev scoansi" or
>depending on if the box is older than 5.0.6 where scoansi is just scoansi-
>old.
>Of course, if you "don't do windows" then have fun finding a good scoansi
>emulator on linux or just upload and install termcap & terminfo definitions
>to the sco box yourself that accurately describes whatever terminal you are
>using from linux/freebsd/apple.
>There is basically nothing in the stock osr5 termcap & terminfo that
>accurately describes anything on a typical linux or apple box. So it's
>emulate scoansi or bust. You have to add any other terminals yourself,
>unless you really are using an old wyse50 terminal or one of the other
>ancient real hardware terminals in there!
>The FreeBSD console isn't pretty but it's functional.
>cons25 is very close to sco's interpretation of ansi,
>just as it claims in the kernel config file.
>If you telnet or ssh right from a freebsd console,
>and then manually set TERM=ansi (from "cons25"),
I typically edit the .profile to handle things like this with
something like (this is not real, only an example).
case "$TERM" in #{
cons25)
TERM=ansi
export TERM
;;
xterm-color|linux)
TERM=xterm
export TERM
;;
esac #}
>It works well enough for sysadmin purposes.
>
>But the arrows, backspace, Del for break, f-keys and colors all work.
>So you can navigate edgemneu and recoveredge just fine.
Bill
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