Telnet with a Windows 2003 server

[Don Coleman]

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> From: filepro-list-bounces+dcoleman=dgcreact.com at lists.celestial.com
> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+dcoleman=dgcreact.com at lists.celestial.com] On
> Behalf Of GCC Consulting
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 3:43 PM
> To: 'Bob Rasmussen'; 'John Esak'
> Cc: 'Filepro-List at Lists. Celestial. Com'
> Subject: RE: Telnet with a Windows 2003 server
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+gccconsulting=comcast.net at lists.c
> > elestial.com] On Behalf Of Bob Rasmussen
> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 12:49 PM
> > To: John Esak
> > Cc: 'Filepro-List at Lists. Celestial. Com'
> > Subject: RE: Telnet with a Windows 2003 server
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, John Esak wrote:
> >
> > > Bob,
> > > Using the telnet client from *any* flavor of Microsoft since time
> > > began has
> > > *never* worked properly with filePro. I have spoken with Ken about
> > > this numerous times. It does not seem to be filePro's fault, but a
> > > constant disregard by Microsoft regarding their
> > provided-free telnet
> > > client. It is SO frustrating, but that is a MAJOR reason why we all
> > > use *your* Anzio software!
> > >
> > > MS telnet will function but never allow the use of the
> > Function keys.
> > >
> > > However, you mentioned using the 2003 telnet daemon... and
> > not the client.
> > > It has never occurred to me that the problem might not be in their
> > > client app but in the server side of things?
> >
> > Here's my analysis, while the dinner rolls rise...
> >
> > It's certainly true that the MS telnet CLIENT doesn't work
> > well in a production environment, especially with a
> > Unix/Linux host. Function key support is bad, and pass-through
> > print support is nonexistent.
> >
> > And thanks for the plug.
> >
> > But for now I'm concerned about the MS telnet SERVER
> > (daemon), and how it works with Windows console applications,
> > such as filePro for Windows.
> > These are apps that look like they're written in DOS, but in
> > fact are console apps.
> >
> > A console app., running directly on the Windows screen, can
> > receive a full range of keystrokes, such as alt-F12 (extreme
> > case). And, it turns out, if you use the MS client to go to
> > the MS server, all keystrokes do work (as Ron just pointed
> > out). But the server doesn't deal with this the same way Unix
> > does, with a terminfo library and keystrokes represented by
> > character sequences starting with escape. And there is no
> > industry standard for what function keys generate.
> >
> > The last time I had investigated this, I learned that the
> > MS-to-MS connection uses a terminal type called "VTNT", which
> > is not documented anywhere. Late yesterday I did some reverse
> > engineering, starting with eavesdropping on the network
> > connection (using "Ethereal"). I actually made considerable
> > progress in breaking the code. So there's a good chance I
> > could make Anzio have a terminal type of VTNT and work in
> > this environment.
> >
> > Question 1: Would this be useful? If you could run Anzio to
> > connect to a Windows 2003 Server running filePro?
> >
> > (Apparently the competing approach is to run a Terminal
> > Services session with a remote desktop).
> >
> > Question 2: Would pass-through print (via PFPT) work in this
> > environment?
> > That's probably a question for Ken.
> >
> > Happy Thanksgiving everyone. May your fellowship with family
> > and friends be even better than the food!
> >
> > Regards,
> > ....Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.
> 
> Bob,
> 
> I am connecting to a number of client's through terminal server and have
> some having staff connecting back using terminal server.
> 
> Would Anzio connecting using telnet run faster?
> 
> Would printing using Anzio's built in printwizard to local printers work?
> 
> Richard Kreiss
> GCC Consulting
> 
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I too would be interested in this, particularly if Print Wizard is
integrated.



Don Coleman
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