Telnet with a Windows 2003 server

GCC Consulting gccconsulting at comcast.net
Fri Nov 23 12:43:01 PST 2007


 

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> elestial.com] On Behalf Of Bob Rasmussen
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 12:49 PM
> To: John Esak
> Cc: 'Filepro-List at Lists. Celestial. Com'
> Subject: RE: Telnet with a Windows 2003 server
> 
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, John Esak wrote:
> 
> > Bob,
> > Using the telnet client from *any* flavor of Microsoft since time 
> > began has
> > *never* worked properly with filePro. I have spoken with Ken about 
> > this numerous times. It does not seem to be filePro's fault, but a 
> > constant disregard by Microsoft regarding their 
> provided-free telnet 
> > client. It is SO frustrating, but that is a MAJOR reason why we all 
> > use *your* Anzio software!
> > 
> > MS telnet will function but never allow the use of the 
> Function keys. 
> > 
> > However, you mentioned using the 2003 telnet daemon... and 
> not the client.
> > It has never occurred to me that the problem might not be in their 
> > client app but in the server side of things?
> 
> Here's my analysis, while the dinner rolls rise...
> 
> It's certainly true that the MS telnet CLIENT doesn't work 
> well in a production environment, especially with a 
> Unix/Linux host. Function key support is bad, and pass-through 
> print support is nonexistent.
> 
> And thanks for the plug.
> 
> But for now I'm concerned about the MS telnet SERVER 
> (daemon), and how it works with Windows console applications, 
> such as filePro for Windows. 
> These are apps that look like they're written in DOS, but in 
> fact are console apps.
> 
> A console app., running directly on the Windows screen, can 
> receive a full range of keystrokes, such as alt-F12 (extreme 
> case). And, it turns out, if you use the MS client to go to 
> the MS server, all keystrokes do work (as Ron just pointed 
> out). But the server doesn't deal with this the same way Unix 
> does, with a terminfo library and keystrokes represented by 
> character sequences starting with escape. And there is no 
> industry standard for what function keys generate.
> 
> The last time I had investigated this, I learned that the 
> MS-to-MS connection uses a terminal type called "VTNT", which 
> is not documented anywhere. Late yesterday I did some reverse 
> engineering, starting with eavesdropping on the network 
> connection (using "Ethereal"). I actually made considerable 
> progress in breaking the code. So there's a good chance I 
> could make Anzio have a terminal type of VTNT and work in 
> this environment.
> 
> Question 1: Would this be useful? If you could run Anzio to 
> connect to a Windows 2003 Server running filePro?
> 
> (Apparently the competing approach is to run a Terminal 
> Services session with a remote desktop).
> 
> Question 2: Would pass-through print (via PFPT) work in this 
> environment? 
> That's probably a question for Ken.
> 
> Happy Thanksgiving everyone. May your fellowship with family 
> and friends be even better than the food!
> 
> Regards,
> ....Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.

Bob,

I am connecting to a number of client's through terminal server and have
some having staff connecting back using terminal server.

Would Anzio connecting using telnet run faster?

Would printing using Anzio's built in printwizard to local printers work?

Richard Kreiss
GCC Consulting
   




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