Shameless Plug for John's Packages

[Richard Kreiss]

Bob,

I'll Second that!!!!

All in favor, please reply.....

Richard Kreiss
GCC Consulting
  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Stockler [mailto:bob at trebor.iglou.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:19 PM
> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Subject: Re: Shameless Plug for John's Packages
> 
> Top post for John . . .
> 
> Great writeup (rightup!), Mark !!!
> 
> John Esak should be declared and annointed as "THE filePro 
> PERSON of the CENTURIES".
> 
> He's done more to promote (and teach) filePro than the owners 
> of the product ever have.
> 
> I first met John in person at a TCBUG (Tandy Computer 
> Business Users Group) convention in Fort Worth, TX.  He was 
> wearing some telescopic spectacles made by an optometrist in 
> Philadelphia, whom I knew from my managing a retail optical business.
> 
> Next, we became better acquainted by being fellow Sysops on 
> CompuServe Forums dealing with filePro and SCO Xenix/UNIX.
> 
> Then John published THE GURU magazine (for which I wrote a 
> number of articles), and also, later, THE filePro COOKBOOK.
> During that time he also hosted two conferences in Virginia, 
> near his then home, promoting and teaching filePro (among 
> other things - one of which was shell programmingm which I 
> taught ... in spite of Bill Campbell's disruption).  
> 
> At one of those conferences I got to meet Dave Rogger (sp?), 
> Ken Brody, and Laura Weathers (now Laura Brody), the top 
> three programmers at filePro at the time.  Dave left, Laura 
> married Ken, and that's where we are now.
> 
> I nominate:
> 
>   John Esak as the "THE filePro PERSON of the CENTURIES".
> 
> Bob
> 
> In-Reply-To: <20070327163107.A28554 at iglou.com>
> 
> Mark Luljak wrote (on Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 04:31:07PM -0400):
> 
> | Hi Folks,
> | 
> | Just writing to rather shamelessly plug John's work (work being in 
> | both senses of the word, product and effort).
> | 
> | I know a lot of you have gotten the Survivor Series and the 
> GL package 
> | but I'm sure there are some that haven't that could benefit from 
> | either or both, and some that got it that don't realise 
> just what a bargain they got.
> | 
> | I've personally seen the quality work that John does, and I truly 
> | believe his experience, instruction, and presentation 
> quality is top notch.
> | 
> | What makes it so incredible is how accessible he's made it for this 
> | community.  I knew firsthand from some of the projects I've 
> done how 
> | much work goes into each one, so I already thought it was a 
> steal and 
> | twenty halves.  (Yes, 11 steals!)
> | 
> | But...  I was just researching what going rates for video 
> production 
> | of this type actually run on the common market.  A check of a 
> | well-respected video production house in a community I just 
> got into 
> | lists the following in their fee schedule:  "3-5 minute 
> tutorial video chapter $1,400 - $1,800"
> | 
> | That's 3-5 minutes for $1400-1800, folks.  Granted, that's 
> production 
> | costs, not retail value when you resell it.  But when you 
> consider the 
> | rather limited market John's product is targetted to, and the sheer
> | -enormity- of both the quantity and quality that he put 
> together and 
> | the production time involved for each segment...  Well, John, I'll 
> | return the favour you've done me a few times and say you should be 
> | charging way more than you are!  You're giving away the 
> homeworld, man!
> | 
> | Anyone that's been sitting on the fence over cost, realise 
> this is an 
> | absolute rock-bottom steal of a price he's offering--and for 
> | high-quality instruction that you're -not- going to get 
> anywhere else.  
> | You learn from the best at a fraction of what you'd pay to 
> learn far less anywhere else.
> | I believed it all along, and my opinion has only multiplied by a 
> | factor of several times after doing some research.
> | 
> | And I know John and his belief in quality and attention to 
> detail.  I 
> | truly believe that (especially from what I've seen) you're getting 
> | top-shelf, high quality material.  He just won't let it out 
> the door 
> | if he knows there's a problem, and he'll bend over 
> backwards to make 
> | it right if there is, by some wild fluke, even a tiny problem.  The 
> | man has overnighted replacements based on a mislabeled 
> disc, if memory 
> | serves.  I don't know many people that do business that 
> way--I surely wish more did!
> | 
> | It is just -amazing- what this man is doing for this community.  
> | Anyone not taking him up on his offers is only shortchanging 
> | themselves.  I can't help but think that after looking at market 
> | prices and especially now knowing what's all involved in the 
> | production process.  When I used to work in stage lighting, 
> I gained 
> | an immense respect for the amount of work that goes into stage 
> | productions, both theatrical and your garden variety concert light 
> | shows.  Same thing here after having immersed myself in 
> video production for even a short time.
> | 
> | John surely didn't ask for this plug, and surely doesn't 
> need my help.  
> | His work speaks for itself.  But he's a great guy, he steadfastly 
> | believes in true quality, and he can provide insight into 
> things that 
> | nobody else would even come close to; so by every 
> qualification in my 
> | own philosophy, he deserves a lot of praise just for doing 
> | -everything- right--and then offering it to the community 
> for such a 
> | fraction of what would be a reasonable ROI that it's 
> practically free 
> | by comparison.  You can't do anything but respect that, and 
> I surely do.
> | 
> | To say nothing of the time involved in doing his GL package and his 
> | bundle price.  Dear Lord, that is an INCREDIBLE deal.  Code you can 
> | rip wholly or in part, learn from and/or use, plus you get 
> the videos!  
> | I don't even want to contemplate the amount of time, work, and love 
> | and dedication you put in on spec, John, but you have my sincere 
> | admiration for finishing that project and releasing it.
> | 
> | And John, all I can say is that I think you deserve a lot 
> more than a 
> | public nod of recognition.  You've always given a lot in this 
> | community, but sitting back and -seriously- looking at the 
> amount of 
> | time you've sat back alone and produced this quality work and then 
> | made it that accessible to everyone, it's just immensely 
> humbling and awe-inspiring.
> | Hats off to you, and I wish that I had your spirit of generosity, 
> | because it really is a phenomenal spirit of giving!  Which is just 
> | like you, but still...deserves recognition in my opinion.  
> When people 
> | do something I feel is wrong or subpar, I'm the first to bitch 
> | strenuously.  When people do something right--I feel they deserve 
> | equal measure of praise.  And this would be a lot of that 
> praise right 
> | here... :) I could go on for several hundred more screens, 
> but you get 
> | the idea...can't sing the praises loud enough.
> | 
> | This community has it -really- good with John doing things like 
> | this...way better than most of it probably realises.  Most 
> communities 
> | never see this level of dedication and selfless giving on 
> the whole, 
> | let alone from a single individual.  I hope people fully appreciate 
> | the effort and avail themselves of the opportunities offered!
> | 
> | With much respect,
> | 
> | mark->
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