wages

[John Esak]

A quick top-post. My suggestion... when and if you do submit some
justification for increased compensation... stand heavily on the fact that
you appear to be doing the job of *several* individuals. A large corporation
might have a netowrk specialist, a programmer, a sysadmin, a help-desk
person and perhaps a hardware person. (maybe more, and maybe even
departments) In any case, if you are performing the duties (and have the
responsibilities) of many people... stand on this. Such things make sense to
an "employer" who knows the cost of adding even one person to the overhead
of everything.

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com
> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com]On Behalf Of Silas
> Martinez
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:48 PM
> To: Filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Subject: Re: wages
>
>
> On 10/27/05, Enrique Arredondo <henry at vegena.net> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Silas Martinez" <silasm at gmail.com>
> > To: <Filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> <..snipped..>
> >
> > What would your employer do if you asked them for a 15-20% raise so you
> > reached the median wages in So.Cal (which is about $65K after doing my
> > research). Would you consider going for it ? (we're talking
> Gross pay right
> > ? or take home net ?)
> >
>
> Truthfully, I suspect that if I were to make such a request, it would
> in the worst case create tension, and may ultimately result in my
> looking for a new employer. In the best case, it would result in a
> lengthy justification of the current wage my employer offers, and
> perhaps a note that my concerns should be a) reconsidered, and b)
> saved for my review period. That is, of course, completely dependant
> on the employer, and I suspect that there are employers out there who
> would respond positively if you provided enough objective evidence.
> I've not met one, though, and I've tried what you suggest (several
> years ago), and found myself looking for new employment as an indirect
> result.
>
> If I were genuinely concerned about my current rate of pay, and were I
> sure that my employer was convinced of my loyalty to the company (i.e.
> I wouldn't be undermining myself by bringing it up), then at most, I
> would bring up my concerns in an appropriate forum. Not as a request
> for additional pay, but as an observation/concern that the average
> rate of pay for my role and responsibilities was between x and y. When
> you do this, bring plenty of justification (not just 'market wage is
> x, so I'm worth x'). Bring a list of the things you've done within the
> company to make the company more profitable, and you more valuable to
> the company.
>
> Then again, I'm no expert at wage negotiations. I suspect, if I were,
> I'd be making a lot more than I'm currently making.
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