Recent discussion of intellectual capabilities among otherwise good to excellent filePro programmers

[John Esak]

You constantly show me how to write better filePro (and every other kind of)
code.  Now you show clearly how to write better list messages.... You make
me feel ashamed that I can not exhibit the restraint you suggest.  Sorry. I
will absolutely refrain from even reading messages  from those who I know
will be posting just tripe.  Thanks, and I'm sorry to have wasted your time
and that of the others who are just trying to do a little filePro.

John


-----Original Message-----
> From: filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com
> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces at lists.celestial.com]On Behalf Of Kenneth
> Brody
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:43 AM
> To: Nancy Palmquist
> Cc: filePro List
> Subject: Re: Recent discussion of intellectual capabilities among
> otherwisegood to excellent filePro programmers
>
>
> Quoting Nancy Palmquist (Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:49:23 -0500):
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > This saber rattling has got to stop.  I am embarrassed to say that I am
> > part of this community when I read the kind of back stabbing that has
> > come to be "normal" on this list.
> >
> > I would suggest that each and every one of you that feels obligated to
> > defend, insult or otherwise post personal comments about the members of
> > this list - take a breath.  Back off and look at what you are posting.
> > The need to respond to every posting as if it insulted you or one of
> > your closest friends is not helpful.
>
> If you feel someone has insulted you somehow, stop for a second and ask
> yourself "are they really insulting me, or am I reading something into
> the message that's not there?"  And if you still feel you're being
> insulted/attacked, put the message aside, come back to it later, and
> re-read it again.  Then, and only then, send a _private_ e-mail to the
> sender and try to be civil when asking "why are you insulting me?"
>
> > I find that the entertainment value of these postings is quickly fading
> > to a point where I can no longer even read postings from some people.
>
> If the message appears to me to be a flame, I simply stop reading it.  If
> there was something useful further down, I'll never see it.  (And I'm sure
> there are other who will never see it as well.)
>
> > We are a small community and should try to spend more time building that
> > community and its members instead of breaking it down.
> >
> > John made an attempt to post information that he felt would be useful to
> > the community.  The thread continued to flow as a "my code is better
> > than yours" until feelings were hurt and personal comments were made.
> > This should have been an opportunity for all to benefit from a solution
> > not a chance to determine who is better than who at coding.
>
> Perhaps rather than taking a "my code is better than yours" stand, why not
> take a "great idea, here's how I think it can be improved upon" stand?
> And if someone's "improvement" won't work for your particular situation,
> that's fine.  Just don't attack it as "wrong".
>
> > I always learn from the postings offered to enhance the community, even
> > if I choose to solve my problems differently.  We can all benefit when
> > we have our horizons expanded with new approaches to problems we all
> > face.
> >
> > I know I am a small bit of this list and my presence makes only a small
> > ripple but I really hate this kind of interaction and environment and
> > will soon find that it has become a waste of time to participate in any
> > way.
> >
> > I call many on this list friends and hope that they will take this
> > criticism in the way it was offered, but I expect more jabs and barbs
> > will be sent as the bad behavior is defended or excused.
> >
> > Let us hope for better and try to build bridges where the gaps between
> > us are large, instead of increasing those chasms.
>
>
> --
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