filePro and Anzio Lite?

[Brian K. White]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fairlight" <fairlite at fairlite.com>
To: "filePro Mailing List" <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:23 AM
Subject: filePro and Anzio Lite?


>I just don't get this.  Enough here use fP and Anzio...maybe someone can
> help me out.
>
> With the latest Anzio, I'm using SCOANSI (post-5.0.6) emulation.
>
> On the SCO side, I'm using tcsh.  Nothing extraordinary there.  I set TERM
> to scoansi and PFTERm to ansi or cansi.  Either way, I get the same 
> result:
>
> I start 'p'.
>
> I enter the requisite password for this system, I get runmenu.
>
> I exit runmenu.
>
> When I'm back at the command line, my typing is double-echoed, I can back
> over my prompt with backspace, and the colour gets screwy -real- fast if I
> even try to use vim to edit .tcshrc to try to change something.  Sometimes
> it comes out of fP messed up.
>
> Everything is fine before I come out of runmenu.
>
> My 'p' is just the script, and it looked stock.  SCO 5.0.6a with various
> and sundry patches.  fP is 5.0.something.  Last I -looked- it was .7 but
> it may have been updated.
>
> This is -supposed- to be a rock solid combination--fP, SCO, and Anzio.  I
> finally get around to trying to work with the combo, and it acts 
> absolutely
> abysmally.  And the thing where you change -nothing- in Anzio's settings
> and it wants you to re-save them when you exit is getting really old.
>
> I'm actually really sorry I bought Anzio at this point.  I was having
> better luck using xterm with PuTTY, to be honest.  Try and do it "right"
> and it's breaking all over the place.
>
> Okay, which piece do I have wrong?  None, of which I'm aware.  But someone
> please point out the obvious and tell me what I did wrong because I don't
> have the patience to fight this blasted software.  I already tried for
> 20min, and it's going beyond the point of diminishing returns.  Using stty
> sane didn't help.  Echoing the vt* escape reset code of ^[c didn't help.
> Nothing helps except shutting down Anzio and trying again.  I don't call
> that a solution.
>
> Someone please point the way.
>
> (A very irked and frustrated...)
>
> mark->

Bob is a very nice person and he and Anzio in general provide perfectly good 
help via email or phone.
You could have asked them directly and got the answer, or got their interest 
and apology and some sort of fix or work-around or other form of making 
amends in the off chance you've uncovered an actual bug, instead of a public 
blast that I bet it turns out they didn't deserve.

I happen to have never had a problem with anzio (lite or full) that I didn't 
also have with every other terminal emulator and that I didn't figure out 
the normal way just as any other terminal emulator. Are you really sure you 
want to sound that simple that you can't figure out how to make a terminal 
emulator work right in short order? _any_ terminal emulator?

They even actually put in at least a couple features I requested (one at 
least I beleive they were already working on)
* recognizing the linux terminal escape sequence for going into and out of 
utf-8 mode, so you can hack "unicode_stop" and "unicode_start" slightly on 
suse so that it sends the sequence any time TERM=linux not just to console 
ttys. This causes putty and now Anzio too, to be able to play nice on suse 
where the default mode and many programs assume unicode, but fp cannot have 
unicode. The emulator can be told from the server to switch in and out of 
unicode mode at will and so I have suse boxes where mc, yast and fp all 
"just work"
* changing the saved defaults files to a plain ascii format so that they can 
be created and manipulated by scripts and generated from templates and 
posted on web pages etc... allowing a lot more flexability for me to provide 
a completely automated one-click experience for the user. (You want me to 
handle all those icky techie details for you like my users? :)

As it happens, I only recently discovered that they implimented the plain 
text config file I'd begged for for a long time and so I don't actually have 
a nice example web page you can click on to use anzio to log into my 
companies demo like I do with FacetWin. But now that I know that new 
versions can do it, I have absolute confidence that it'll be no sweat to 
toss up. If you don't get a more direct answer before then, then sometime 
soon I should be able to point you at a "login" button on our web site that 
is in fact just an anzio config file all preconfigured to work on sco 5.0.6 
. You can just save it and use it.
Among the settings is even a setting that says "do or don't ask to save 
settings at close, and under what conditions." And one of the conditions is 
"never ask, regardless if setting changes detected."
You're default is probably set to "ask if changes detected" and it always 
detects changes, because some of the escape sequences sent by fp or other 
full screen curses apps, cause changes.

Brian K. White  --  brian at aljex.com  --  http://www.aljex.com/bkw/
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