Biometrics

[Bill Vermillion]

On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 01:08:26PM -0400, Fairlight thus spoke:
> Yo, homey, in case you don' be listenin', Bill Vermillion done said:

> > > So how hard would it be to come up with something that will detect core
> > > heat signatures, note their vector, and sound an alarm if two go in on
> > > one authorisation, but not if two go out (obviously one or more of the
> > > secondary departures would be kids.

> > Such a high-tech solution for a low-tech problem.

> Well hell, making sure the right person is picking them up is
> a low-tech problem, but you're already bringing in high-tech
> equipment far beyond reason. What's one more step?

It's called $$$.  

> > comb type.    And the solution for going out is to have one
> > entrance and another for exit.

> Like nobody's ever held an exit door open for an entering person.
> *chuckle*  You see it all the time at stores.

I did say a comb type exit door.  You can go out but you can't go
in.  If you are not familiar it's like a revovling door concept - a
vertical shaft with horizontal bars about 1 foot apart.  A
mechanism to it can only rotated one way and there is no way to get
in on the other side because of solid bars that the rotating bars
pass between.

> > > Of course, this is still subject to threat of duress...someone threatens a
> > > husband or wife's life unless someone brings out another child that isn't
> > > theres.   But it does improve the system.

> Dear Lord, did I -really- type "theres"?!!!!  *faint*  *recover*  I'm
> sorry, "...theirs."  

> I'm really -not- feeling well, am I?  Eesh.

> > That becomes a matter for the law to handle.  That fall under
> > violent crime and not security.

> So does abducting kids in general, but you didn't have a
> problem with it when they brought up hand scanning. *confused*
> Either it's an issue or it's not.

Hand scanning was for verification of entry into the building, and
I'm assuming that ALL people would go through that process to enter
even the employees.   If there is any other entrance then your
security is breached.

> Personally, I don't think it is worth the expense and complexity.

Expense and complexity depends upon what it is you are trying to
protect.  The school is trying to protect children.  The place I
have access to with dual door checks is a communications facility.

> But you can't realistically say one falls under crime and not
> security and then say the other is the obverse. They either
> both are or both aren't.

They are two different things.  The hand scanning is a verification
method to gain access to a facility.  Controlling access is
designed to prevent a crime from happening.

Threatening a person's life is definately a crime, and threating 
with a gun to commit a further crime compounds it.  

Security is used to prevent a potential crime.   Why can you not
tell the difference?

Bill
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