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Wally,<br>
<br>
This is essentially the way I handle it with Netware. All executables
are run from the server, but are run on the client. All files are
stored on the server.<br>
<br>
What advantages would I get with running Server 2003 over something
like Netware and/or why not run on Linux with Samba instead?<br>
<br>
Thanks again for the advice.<br>
<br>
Boaz<br>
<br>
Wally Turnbull wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">Boaz,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">The move is quite
easy.<span style=""> </span>Your workstations come with a
Windows network client.<span style=""> </span>The version
of FilePro is the same.<span style=""> </span>Whether you
run filePro on the server on from the workstations is not big deal on a
hardwired LAN.<span style=""> </span>It will be very
fast.<span style=""> </span>I would keep all executables
as well as the data bases on the server and let the workstations run
everything
from the server drive if I were you.<span style="">
</span>That makes maintenance, upgrade and support easier.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">You biggest
job will be to rebuild all of your users and groups and assign rights
to
devices and files.<span style=""> </span>Even that is no
big deal if you assign most of the permissions to groups and then put
your
users in the right groups.<span style=""> </span>The
permissions are slightly different than in Netware but close enough to
make
sense to you when you look at them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">You can build
your Windows server and add the permissions while the Netware server is
still
in use.<span style=""> </span>Once that is done, copy the
user files over to the new server and change the workstations’ clients
and login.<span style=""> </span>It is a bit tedious but not
difficult and only done once.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">Wally<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: blue;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:filepro-list-bounces@lists.celestial.com">filepro-list-bounces@lists.celestial.com</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:filepro-list-bounces@lists.celestial.com">mailto:filepro-list-bounces@lists.celestial.com</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Boaz Bezborodko<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, May 19,
2006 9:37 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Transpower<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:filepro-list@seaslug.org">filepro-list@seaslug.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Looking
for some
upgrade advice</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Is
win2003 easy to move
up to from Netware?<br>
<br>
I understand that running filePro on the server can speed things up
given that
the disk access is right there. But I don't have any complaints about
access right now and we're working mostly on 7 year old PIIs and
Celerons with
a 100Mb ethernet. I'd rather spend the money on upgrading the
individual
computers and the server hardware to GigE and a faster disk subsystem.<br>
<br>
Any more thoughts or advice?<br>
<br>
Transpower wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">My Windows 2003
Server and those of my clients have never crashed. Terminal Server
works
great; I can even connect to one wirelessly with my Windows Mobile 5
device
(using Terminal Services client)! Of course I still also like SCO UNIX
OpenServer--super reliable and fast, with good disaster recovery tools
available.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Ron Satz<br>
Transpower Corporation, <a href="http://www.transpowercorp.com">www.transpowercorp.com</a>,
<a href="mailto:transpower@aol.com">transpower@aol.com</a><br>
SCO Authorized and Microsoft Certified Systems Engineering<br>
<br>
<br>
<span type="cite">Boaz Bezborodko wrote on 5/19/2006, 8:31 AM:</span>
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">What kind
flexibility would I be gaining? Not being fascetious, it's just that I
haven't really looked into any server feature sets since I installed
Netware
5. <br>
<br>
My other concern is uptime and security, but it seems that 2003 is
better
than I was led to believe.<br>
<br>
Of course I coul just stick to newer and better hardware with the same
old
OS. Most of the hardware I'd consider (upgrading to a still old
Storage
Array 4300 RAID controller would still give me an 8-fold increase in
disk
transfer speeds and most of the database will fit in memory anyway)
will have
drivers for NW 5.<br>
<br>
Boaz<br>
<br>
John Esak wrote: </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;" wrap=""><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I'm going to top-post... sorry.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I am a *nix person almost exclusively... and I think getting a hold of a<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Unix guru like Bill Campbell to help you put in a Linux system would be<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">unbeatable. HOWEVER... lacking the money (and I think it would be pretty<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">considerable to do something like that...) I would never consider switching<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">from a platform I know and like to something *completely* foreign. It would<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">be just as hard to go from being a solid Unix house to a Windows server.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">The bottom line for me is to agree with Wally, if you are comfortable with<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Netware... moving to a @003 server would be relatively painless and offer<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">you huge new flexibility.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">John Esak<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span
style=""> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From: <a
href="mailto:filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com@lists.celestial.com">filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com@lists.celestial.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">[<a
href="mailto:filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com@lists.celestial.com">mailto:filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com@lists.celestial.com</a>]On<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Behalf Of Boaz Bezborodko<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:30 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">To: <a
href="mailto:filepro-list@lists.celestial.com">filepro-list@lists.celestial.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject: Looking for some upgrade advice<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I want to start planning an upgrade of our company's server.<span
style=""> </span>Currently<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">we are using FilePro on Windows working off an old Netware 5.0 server<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">based on a PII-350 machine.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">The FilePro applications themselves run decently and will obviously run<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">better if I simply upgraded the server hardware and the network to GigE.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I was considering using Linux instead of Netware, but does this mean<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">having to learn something completely new or are there some decent<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">packaged versions that avoid some of the pain?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Any other options I should be considering?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Boaz<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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