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I'll consider it, but many of these machines really need to be upgraded
because of other applications people are using. I don't want to load
up the server with some of these and some of the machines are just
tired. Finally, after 7 years there is something of a hodgepodge of
hardware due to repairs from what used to be a common setup. For some
applications a 400MHz Celeron just doesn't cut it anymore. If I
upgraded the server I would also have to upgrade the printing methods
as the old system depended on the Netware "CAPTURE" command. Not
difficult, but still time consuming.<br>
<br>
I'll probably look to upgrade the server hardware first and then
consider the possibility of migrating to a new OS. At least then it
becomes a two-stage process where the second is not dependent on the
first.<br>
<br>
Boaz<br>
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Transpower wrote:
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<font face="Arial,sans-serif"><font size="2">Boaz: You woudn't have
to
upgrade the clients at all; just install and configure the Terminal
Services client on each. Spend your money (or the company's money) on
the server. The client software is free, but the licenses at ther
server are not (you'll have to check to see what the current prices
are, but the last time I checked they were $75/seat). And make sure
you use Windows Server 2003 Standard, not Small Business Server--which
doesn't support Terminal Services to more than 2 clients.<br>
<br>
If you've never done a Terminal Server installation you will need to
study Todd Mathers' book on Thin Client Solutions.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
</font></font><font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><font size="2">Ron
Satz<br>
Transpower Corporation, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="http://www.transpowercorp.com">www.transpowercorp.com</a>, <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:transpower@aol.com">transpower@aol.com</a><br>
SCO Authorized and Microsoft Certified Systems Engineering</font></font><br>
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<span type="cite">Boaz Bezborodko wrote on 5/19/2006, 9:37 AM:</span>
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face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2">Is win2003 easy to move up to from
Netware?<br>
<br>
I understand that running filePro on the server can speed things up
given that the disk access is right there. But I don't have any
complaints about access right now and we're working mostly on 7 year
old PIIs and Celerons with a 100Mb ethernet. I'd rather spend the
money on upgrading the individual computers and the server hardware to
GigE and a faster disk subsystem.<br>
<br>
Any more thoughts or advice?<br>
<br>
Transpower wrote: </font>
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<font face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2"><font size="2">My Windows
2003 Server
and
those of my clients have never crashed. Terminal Server works great; I
can even connect to one wirelessly with my Windows Mobile 5 device
(using Terminal Services client)! Of course I still also like SCO UNIX
OpenServer--super reliable and fast, with good disaster recovery tools
available.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Ron Satz<br>
Transpower Corporation, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="http://www.transpowercorp.com">www.transpowercorp.com</a>, <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:transpower@aol.com">transpower@aol.com</a><br>
SCO Authorized and Microsoft Certified Systems Engineering<br>
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<span type="cite">Boaz Bezborodko wrote on 5/19/2006, 8:31 AM:</span>
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face="Arial,sans-serif" size="2">What kind flexibility would I be
gaining? Not being fascetious, it's
just that I haven't really looked into any server feature sets since I
installed Netware 5. <br>
<br>
My other concern is uptime and security, but it seems that 2003 is
better than I was led to believe.<br>
<br>
Of course I coul just stick to newer and better hardware with the same
old OS. Most of the hardware I'd consider (upgrading to a still old
Storage Array 4300 RAID controller would still give me an 8-fold
increase in disk transfer speeds and most of the database will fit in
memory anyway) will have drivers for NW 5.<br>
<br>
Boaz<br>
<br>
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<pre wrap="">I'm going to top-post... sorry.
I am a *nix person almost exclusively... and I think getting a hold of a
Unix guru like Bill Campbell to help you put in a Linux system would be
unbeatable. HOWEVER... lacking the money (and I think it would be pretty
considerable to do something like that...) I would never consider switching
from a platform I know and like to something *completely* foreign. It would
be just as hard to go from being a solid Unix house to a Windows server.
The bottom line for me is to agree with Wally, if you are comfortable with
Netware... moving to a @003 server would be relatively painless and offer
you huge new flexibility.
John Esak
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Subject: Looking for some upgrade advice
I want to start planning an upgrade of our company's server. Currently
we are using FilePro on Windows working off an old Netware 5.0 server
based on a PII-350 machine.
The FilePro applications themselves run decently and will obviously run
better if I simply upgraded the server hardware and the network to GigE.
I was considering using Linux instead of Netware, but does this mean
having to learn something completely new or are there some decent
packaged versions that avoid some of the pain?
Any other options I should be considering?
Thanks in advance,
Boaz
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