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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>William,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I think that what John was indicating, was not a "free
Speech" issue as much a being "scammed". This person extolled the
listeners to visit his web site to see the video for over an
hour.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>When John got home, This person claimed he had removed said
video for what ever reason.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>To me this is the same as a retailers "Bait and Switch"
sales tactic which is illegal in most places in the US.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>If someone wants me to visit his web site, fine, tell me
about it all you want, but don;'t lie to me.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Granted, everyone who went to his site and was disappointed
or angered at not finding what they were looking for, will never return to that
site. Still ii is "Bait and Switch".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Freedom of speech, yes. down right lying no. He
lied to his listeners and not a political lie. The constitution protects
political speech not all speech. More then yelling fire in a theater is
unconstitutional. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>People are finding that they are not free to express
themselves about their bosses or company's. They can loose their
jobs or be held libel for looses. People posting complaints about their
employers on the web have been fired. These firings have been
upheld.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>This is the problem today, individuals feel that they
can say what ever they want to whom ever they want with no consideration of the
others individual. This is why kids have no respect for other people
property, why music is blasted from boom boxes or car radios. I can
go on and on. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=290043416-17052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>As a society we have lost respect for those around
us. It has become "me" and other don;'t count. Now, much of this
attitude can be laid at my generation, "the me generation; make love not
war". But when all one thinks about is "me", society as a whole
looses. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Richard Kreiss<BR>GCC Consulting </FONT></P></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> filepro-list-bounces@lists.celestial.com
[mailto:filepro-list-bounces@lists.celestial.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>William
Steeves<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 17, 2004 11:27 AM<BR><B>To:</B> John Esak;
filePro mailing list<BR><B>Subject:</B> OT:: Political
banter..<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2>John;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2>Calm down</FONT>. Walk away from the
radio. Better yet,</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2>instead of infringing on other people's right
of self expression</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2>read this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=4>"A</FONT></STRONG><A name=amendmenti><STRONG><FONT
size=4>mendment I</FONT></STRONG></A></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=4><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>
<P><FONT size=4><STRONG>Congress shall make no law respecting an
<U>establishment of religion</U>, or prohibiting the free exercise
thereof; </STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4><STRONG><U>or abridging the freedom of speech</U>, <U>or of
the press</U>; </STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=4><STRONG>or the right of the people peaceably to assemble,
and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
"</STRONG></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080>This guy; Mike Gallagher; has his right to speak
whatever he wants; (except <U><STRONG>FIRE </STRONG></U>in a crowded
theater).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080>You have the right to listen. You also have the
right to switch stations or turn the butthead off. Simple.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080>This <STRONG>Constitution</STRONG> protects all
of us; buttheads included. The FCC clamps down on people (Howard
Stern)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080>who go over the line but the FCC or any other
government body CANNOT take away our right to make fools</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080>out of ourselves. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080>Believe it or not we need people like Mike Gallagher,
Rush Limbaugh, Howard Stern and Al Franken. We</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080>need them to be out there, giving us their
opinions; then we can make up our own minds. The only way
we</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080>can hope to change this country is to; first listen
and seek to understand. Then talk and hope to be understood.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080>As for me; I never </FONT><FONT color=#000080>argue
with anyone, I do, from time to time, engage them in a dialectical
struggle. I understand</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080>them and their eschewed views and try to get them to
understand mine. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080>Anyway, John, calm down and turn the radio off or
change the channel. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080>Have a great day and, Mr. Esak, make the day
count!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080>Will Steeves</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV>
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