New Printers with Windows filePro 5.7

Bob Rasmussen ras at anzio.com
Mon Oct 17 13:58:30 PDT 2022


If you're looking to use a Windows printer driver to preload the form 
file, made with MkPCL, into the printer, you won't find it there. A 
Windows printer driver does not have that feature.

I don't remember the details of how the late Jim Asman instructed a user 
to preload the forms file. He may not have covered the Windows side of 
things.

If you don't get an answer for free, I can provide some analysis and an 
answer for a fee. Contact me off-list.

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022, Scott Nelson wrote:

> I am using MkPCL and have a form to load into memory, and it needs the PCL5 
> for that...
>
>
>
> On 10/17/2022 12:46 PM, Bob Rasmussen wrote:
>> I've struggled to keep on top of HP's driver support, and it looks like HP 
>> has too, internally. Here are some quick notes:
>> 
>> 1. See 
>> https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/ish_4952109-2831856-16#:~:text=The%20Universal%20Print%20Driver%20has,PostScript%2Demulation%20(PS)
>> 
>> 2. If you search HP's website for a driver for a particular printer, and 
>> specify an OLD version of Windows, you can often find the Universal PCL-5 
>> driver. Just now I searched for HP 4014, Vista 64-bit, and got a download 
>> link on this page:
>> 
>> https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-laserjet-p4014-printer-series/3558788 
>> 
>> 3. For filePro output that contains PCL-5 control sequences, you DO NOT 
>> NEED a PCL-5 printer driver for Windows. The Windows printer driver 
>> functions to convert high-livel (GDI) printing to PCL-5 codes, but you 
>> already have PCL-5 codes. What you NEED is a driver that will pass data 
>> TRANSPARENTLY to the printer. I believe that most HP PCL-6 drivers will NOT 
>> do this; most HP PCL-5 drivers WILL. The Windows-provided Generic driver 
>> might even work.
>> 
>> BUT, many drivers will not work this way for USB connections to the 
>> printer. I advise using "Standard TCP/IP" port, "raw" mode.
>> 
>> 4. If you do have a CD with a printer driver from HP (or anyone else), that 
>> driver is probably out of date. Don't use it.
>> 
>> On Mon, 17 Oct 2022, Scott Nelson wrote:
>> 
>>> I called HP specifically to find out which printer did PCL5 and they told 
>>> me the 4001dn would.  They did Not tell me they removed all the PCL5 
>>> drivers from their website, and they are not providing CDs for install 
>>> with the printers any longer.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/16/2022 10:05 PM, Bob Rasmussen wrote:
>>>> It looks to me like a risky site. Who knows what you'll end up 
>>>> downloading?
>>>> 
>>>> The situation with HP printers and FilePro has changed little in 10 
>>>> years. You need a printer that can handle incoming PCL-5; or you need 
>>>> outside software.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2022, Scott Nelson via Filepro-list wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I see this driver from this site and from driverscloud.com.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has anyone used drivers from these sites?  I want to be sure they are 
>>>>> safe.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 09/26/2022 08:41 AM, Reggie Freedman GM wrote:
>>>>>> This may work.... 
>>>>>> https://www.hpdrivers.net/universal-pcl5-print-driver-for-hp-v5-9-0-18326/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Reggie Freedman GM <rdfreedman at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: Scott Nelson <scott at logicdatasystems.com>
>>>>>> Sent: 9/26/2022 9:39:40 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: New Printers with Windows filePro 5.7
>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________________ 
>>>>>> Reggie here
>>>>>> PCL6 is NOT filePro compatible to PCL5  Sad - It is not an upgrade, 
>>>>>> more like a whole new windows driver.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> filePro will not print through or using a PCL6 driver.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You might search for a PCL5 driver for your HP209dwe:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "pcl5 driver for hp209dwe"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Scott Nelson via Filepro-list <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>>>>>> Reply-To: Scott Nelson <scott at logicdatasystems.com>
>>>>>> To: filePro Mailing List <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>>>>>> Sent: 9/26/2022 7:45:58 AM
>>>>>> Subject: New Printers with Windows filePro 5.7
>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________________ 
>>>>>> We gave up on the Inkjet printer, and now trying to print to a wi-fil 
>>>>>> HP laserjet.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am using the basic HPLASER print codes that worked on the Dell 
>>>>>> printer. When I try to print to the new HP209dwe printer, it behaves 
>>>>>> the same as the other wi-fi printers. The printer wakes up and sounds 
>>>>>> like it will begin, the nothing happens. No paper movement at all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wonder if this is because it is wi-fi or just not liking the escape 
>>>>>> codes in the filePro printer table for HPLASER.  I tried many of the 
>>>>>> other printer types and they all behave the same way.   I am trying 
>>>>>> this without the MKPCL overlay, but will need to use that with the 
>>>>>> invoice printout once I get the printer to behave.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The barely capable support at HP says this printer is PCL6 and they no 
>>>>>> longer publish escape code data for printers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Has anyone else had these issues?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are their other USB printers that would work better than all the new 
>>>>>> wi-fi winderz based printers?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What newer laser printers (B&W) are you using with windows filePro on 
>>>>>> windows 10?   Which fP printer driver?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> ....Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> ....Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.
>> 
>> personal e-mail: ras at anzio.com
>>  company e-mail: rsi at anzio.com
>>           voice: (US) 503-624-0360
>>             fax: no longer available
>>             web: http://www.anzio.com
>> Mailing address: Rasmussen Software, Inc.   NEW AS OF JULY 1, 2022
>>                  6265 SW Erickson Ave.
>>                  Beaverton OR 97008  USA
>> 
>
>

Regards,
....Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.

personal e-mail: ras at anzio.com
  company e-mail: rsi at anzio.com
           voice: (US) 503-624-0360
             fax: no longer available
             web: http://www.anzio.com
Mailing address: Rasmussen Software, Inc.   NEW AS OF JULY 1, 2022
                  6265 SW Erickson Ave.
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