New Printers with Windows filePro 5.7
Bob Rasmussen
ras at anzio.com
Mon Oct 17 13:58:30 PDT 2022
If you're looking to use a Windows printer driver to preload the form
file, made with MkPCL, into the printer, you won't find it there. A
Windows printer driver does not have that feature.
I don't remember the details of how the late Jim Asman instructed a user
to preload the forms file. He may not have covered the Windows side of
things.
If you don't get an answer for free, I can provide some analysis and an
answer for a fee. Contact me off-list.
On Mon, 17 Oct 2022, Scott Nelson wrote:
> I am using MkPCL and have a form to load into memory, and it needs the PCL5
> for that...
>
>
>
> On 10/17/2022 12:46 PM, Bob Rasmussen wrote:
>> I've struggled to keep on top of HP's driver support, and it looks like HP
>> has too, internally. Here are some quick notes:
>>
>> 1. See
>> https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/ish_4952109-2831856-16#:~:text=The%20Universal%20Print%20Driver%20has,PostScript%2Demulation%20(PS)
>>
>> 2. If you search HP's website for a driver for a particular printer, and
>> specify an OLD version of Windows, you can often find the Universal PCL-5
>> driver. Just now I searched for HP 4014, Vista 64-bit, and got a download
>> link on this page:
>>
>> https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-laserjet-p4014-printer-series/3558788
>>
>> 3. For filePro output that contains PCL-5 control sequences, you DO NOT
>> NEED a PCL-5 printer driver for Windows. The Windows printer driver
>> functions to convert high-livel (GDI) printing to PCL-5 codes, but you
>> already have PCL-5 codes. What you NEED is a driver that will pass data
>> TRANSPARENTLY to the printer. I believe that most HP PCL-6 drivers will NOT
>> do this; most HP PCL-5 drivers WILL. The Windows-provided Generic driver
>> might even work.
>>
>> BUT, many drivers will not work this way for USB connections to the
>> printer. I advise using "Standard TCP/IP" port, "raw" mode.
>>
>> 4. If you do have a CD with a printer driver from HP (or anyone else), that
>> driver is probably out of date. Don't use it.
>>
>> On Mon, 17 Oct 2022, Scott Nelson wrote:
>>
>>> I called HP specifically to find out which printer did PCL5 and they told
>>> me the 4001dn would. They did Not tell me they removed all the PCL5
>>> drivers from their website, and they are not providing CDs for install
>>> with the printers any longer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/16/2022 10:05 PM, Bob Rasmussen wrote:
>>>> It looks to me like a risky site. Who knows what you'll end up
>>>> downloading?
>>>>
>>>> The situation with HP printers and FilePro has changed little in 10
>>>> years. You need a printer that can handle incoming PCL-5; or you need
>>>> outside software.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2022, Scott Nelson via Filepro-list wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I see this driver from this site and from driverscloud.com.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone used drivers from these sites? I want to be sure they are
>>>>> safe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/26/2022 08:41 AM, Reggie Freedman GM wrote:
>>>>>> This may work....
>>>>>> https://www.hpdrivers.net/universal-pcl5-print-driver-for-hp-v5-9-0-18326/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Reggie Freedman GM <rdfreedman at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: Scott Nelson <scott at logicdatasystems.com>
>>>>>> Sent: 9/26/2022 9:39:40 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: New Printers with Windows filePro 5.7
>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> Reggie here
>>>>>> PCL6 is NOT filePro compatible to PCL5 Sad - It is not an upgrade,
>>>>>> more like a whole new windows driver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> filePro will not print through or using a PCL6 driver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You might search for a PCL5 driver for your HP209dwe:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "pcl5 driver for hp209dwe"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Scott Nelson via Filepro-list <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>>>>>> Reply-To: Scott Nelson <scott at logicdatasystems.com>
>>>>>> To: filePro Mailing List <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>>>>>> Sent: 9/26/2022 7:45:58 AM
>>>>>> Subject: New Printers with Windows filePro 5.7
>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> We gave up on the Inkjet printer, and now trying to print to a wi-fil
>>>>>> HP laserjet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am using the basic HPLASER print codes that worked on the Dell
>>>>>> printer. When I try to print to the new HP209dwe printer, it behaves
>>>>>> the same as the other wi-fi printers. The printer wakes up and sounds
>>>>>> like it will begin, the nothing happens. No paper movement at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if this is because it is wi-fi or just not liking the escape
>>>>>> codes in the filePro printer table for HPLASER. I tried many of the
>>>>>> other printer types and they all behave the same way. I am trying
>>>>>> this without the MKPCL overlay, but will need to use that with the
>>>>>> invoice printout once I get the printer to behave.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The barely capable support at HP says this printer is PCL6 and they no
>>>>>> longer publish escape code data for printers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone else had these issues?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are their other USB printers that would work better than all the new
>>>>>> wi-fi winderz based printers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What newer laser printers (B&W) are you using with windows filePro on
>>>>>> windows 10? Which fP printer driver?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc.
>>>>
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>>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc.
>>
>> personal e-mail: ras at anzio.com
>> company e-mail: rsi at anzio.com
>> voice: (US) 503-624-0360
>> fax: no longer available
>> web: http://www.anzio.com
>> Mailing address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. NEW AS OF JULY 1, 2022
>> 6265 SW Erickson Ave.
>> Beaverton OR 97008 USA
>>
>
>
Regards,
....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc.
personal e-mail: ras at anzio.com
company e-mail: rsi at anzio.com
voice: (US) 503-624-0360
fax: no longer available
web: http://www.anzio.com
Mailing address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. NEW AS OF JULY 1, 2022
6265 SW Erickson Ave.
Beaverton OR 97008 USA
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