Newbie advice

Tue Jun 8 09:00:40 PDT 2021

Jeff,

John Esak put together a very nice set of videos that teach FP from 
beginning to advanced that are also decently indexed.
I think they were ~$600 or $700, but I don't know if he still has them 
available.  I have a copy on my hard drive, but don't know if I'm 
allowed to transfer them.
If anyone can suggest the best way to ethically make them available them 
I'm all ears.  (One option:  I could burn them onto DVD and delete my 
copies.)

I no longer use Filepro except to access certain historical data. I'm 
now with a different company and we don't use it anymore.

Boaz

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> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 09:23:29 -0400
> From: Richard Kreiss <rkreiss at verizon.net>
> To: Jeff Bandle <jeffbandle at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: Newbie advice
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> Jeff,
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> Starting from the beginning is not such a bad thing. Once you understand how filePro works, it makes it easier to diagnose issues. Kwwp in mind that many functions are hidden from an FP programmer. To make it faster to write code. As the underlying programming expands so does the functionality of filePro.
>
> I have been programming with filePro for over 30 years.through versions 3 to the current version. As this is art & science no two programmers will write the same code to solve a problem. Supplying the ?source? code with the runtimes insures the developer of having  the version that the client is using   I have done this many times to insure any modifications done for the client is on-site. I do have copies of most of me client?s programs on my server. This makes it easy for me to restore their programming in the event of a disaster. Many don?t do backups or test them to insure that the backup actually works. I have one client who copies the backup to another computer in case his primary server goes down. The backup server is off-site.
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> Richard Kreiss
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>> On Jun 7, 2021, at 8:59 PM, Jeff Bandle via Filepro-list <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hi All -
>>
>>    Long time lurker on this list but I'm compelled to ask for some advice.
>> A few weeks ago Nancy posted a notice that a long time FilePro programmer,
>> George Simon had unexpectedly passed away.  I knew George from working with
>> him the last 10 years, assisting him on the FlowerSoft Silver application
>> used by quite a few independent flower shops throughout the US.  I didn't do
>> any FilePro development but helped by providing standalone applications
>> George called to handle things such as decrypting wire orders and processing
>> credit card transactions.
>>
>>
>>
>>   George's sudden passing has left these shops in an unsupported situation
>> and I've agreed to see if I can take this on in a very limited manner to at
>> least buy time for these shops to move onto another solution.  I've been
>> working with Nancy and the fptech folks and have gotten a 6.0 license for
>> the newest FilePro development environment.  In researching the installed
>> FlowerSoft software at several difference locations, it looks like George
>> included the source code with the executable bits.
>>
>>
>>
>>   What I'm asking is advice/guidance on the best way to proceed with ramping
>> up on FilePro so I can at least try to diagnose issues if they were
>> reported.  George and I had talked about me helping him and he was going to
>> provide guidance but sadly that never happened before his passing.  A
>> complicating factor is George was on FilePro 5.0 and I guess there are
>> potential conflicts if I use the 6.0 version that I will have to watch out
>> for.
>>
>>
>>
>>   I apologize up front if this is too vague.  I've programmed in C, C++ and
>> C# along with MySQL and MS SQL, so I have a fair amount of programming
>> experience.  I've looked at the training materials available on the fptech
>> site but what I've seen seems to be geared for starting from scratch, not
>> how to support an existing project.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any tips.  I would like to have a setup where I make
>> changes on my local development machine and then role those changes to the
>> customer system, but maybe that isn't a good way to do it.  Any thoughts on
>> a recommendation for setting up a support "lab" would be very helpful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff Bandle
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> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 09:09:38 -0500
> From: <mschw at athenet.net>
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>    What I'm asking is advice/guidance on the best way to proceed with ramping
> up on FilePro so I can at least try to diagnose issues if they were
> reported.  George and I had talked about me helping him and he was going to
> provide guidance but sadly that never happened before his passing.  A
> complicating factor is George was on FilePro 5.0 and I guess there are
> potential conflicts if I use the 6.0 version that I will have to watch out
> for.
>
> Jeff Bandle
>
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>       This list is probably your most valuable ally.  I'm sure we would all
> be willing to help out if you run into a filePro problem you can't figure
> out.  If it turns into a big problem, several of us are independent
> programmers who can be hired to help you fix it.
>
>      I also do filePro training classes.  I'm doing most of the training
> virtually now, so can include you in one of my sessions.
>
>       Or, if you let me know where you live, I can probably get you in on one
> of my on-site training classes.  (The classes are usually at one individual
> company, but some of them have allowed me to invite "strangers" in.
> Depending on the Covid situation, I may be doing training in Phoenix, AZ and
> Courtland, NY this year.)
>
>       You might want to try to buy a copy of Stuart Werner's filePro
> Developers Reference.  (I just tried to bring up the STN.com web site, but
> was unable to.  I hope STN is not out of business...)
>
>       George's library may already have a copy of the reference, even if it
> is an older edition.  (The last edition only covered version 5 of filePro.)
>
>       I've acquired a couple of the older filePro printed manuals.  They only
> cover filePro through version 4.1, but I still find the programming info and
> examples invaluable.  Again, George's library may have a copy.
>
>       I might be persuaded to send you one of my copies of the filePro manual
> if you can't find one elsewhere.
>
>       You might want to look for issues of the old newsletters that John Esak
> put out.  I have some of these newsletters, but I am in the process of
> moving and they are packed in boxes in my storage unit right now.
>
>       I sure wish I could get a complete set of the old Esak newsletters.  I
> would love to have a complete set.  If anybody has a set and if John Esak
> would give permission to scan them in, I would pay the neighbor kid to scan
> them in and create PDF's for me...
>
>       You can also contact Laura Brody to see if she still has the old
> "filePro Goddess" journals.  There were only a few of those, but they had a
> lot of good filePro tips and tricks in them.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Mike Schwartz
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 14:46:34 +0000
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>       You might want to try to buy a copy of Stuart Werner's filePro Developers Reference.  (I just tried to bring up the STN.com web site, but was unable to.  I hope STN is not out of business...)
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> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2021 11:43:33 -0400
> From: "laura.k.brody" <laura.k.brody at gmail.com>
> To: mschw at athenet.net, filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
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> Don't use 6.0 features. Other than that, you should have compatible code.Laura Brody?Sent from my Galaxy
> -------- Original message --------From: Mike Schwartz via Filepro-list <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com> Date: 6/8/21  10:10 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com Subject: RE: Newbie advice [snip] ? What I'm asking is advice/guidance on the best way to proceed with rampingup on FilePro so I can at least try to diagnose issues if they werereported.? George and I had talked about me helping him and he was going toprovide guidance but sadly that never happened before his passing.? Acomplicating factor is George was on FilePro 5.0 and I guess there arepotential conflicts if I use the 6.0 version that I will have to watch outfor.Jeff Bandle----- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------???? This list is probably your most valuable ally.? I'm sure we would allbe willing to help out if you run into a filePro problem you can't figureout.? If it turns into a big problem, several of us are independentprogrammers who can be hired to help you
>    fix it.? ??? I also do filePro training classes.? I'm doing most of the trainingvirtually now, so can include you in one of my sessions.? ???? Or, if you let me know where you live, I can probably get you in on oneof my on-site training classes.? (The classes are usually at one individualcompany, but some of them have allowed me to invite "strangers" in.Depending on the Covid situation, I may be doing training in Phoenix, AZ andCourtland, NY this year.)???? You might want to try to buy a copy of Stuart Werner's fileProDevelopers Reference.? (I just tried to bring up the STN.com web site, butwas unable to.? I hope STN is not out of business...)? ???? George's library may already have a copy of the reference, even if itis an older edition.? (The last edition only covered version 5 of filePro.)???? I've acquired a couple of the older filePro printed manuals.? They onlycover filePro through version 4.1, but I still find the programming info andexamples invaluable.? Again, George's libr
>   ary may have a copy.? ???? I might be persuaded to send you one of my copies of the filePro manualif you can't find one elsewhere.???? You might want to look for issues of the old newsletters that John Esakput out.? I have some of these newsletters, but I am in the process ofmoving and they are packed in boxes in my storage unit right now.? ???? I sure wish I could get a complete set of the old Esak newsletters.? Iwould love to have a complete set.? If anybody has a set and if John Esakwould give permission to scan them in, I would pay the neighbor kid to scanthem in and create PDF's for me...? ???? You can also contact Laura Brody to see if she still has the old"filePro Goddess" journals.? There were only a few of those, but they had alot of good filePro tips and tricks in them.Hope that helps!Mike Schwartz???? ????????? _______________________________________________Filepro-list mailing listFilepro-list at lists.celestial.comSubscribe/Unsubscribe/Subscription Changeshttp://mailman.ce
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