FW: FW: fatal error: unexpected SIGSEGV in emulator mode

[Fairlight]

I think you misinterpreted a point I was making.  Jose said it was all
about money.  I was observing that I have seen clients literally shell
out upwards of 15-20k for hardware, often under-specced, definitely
overpriced, and at least one time not even suited to intended use, and
then complain about $500-2000 in consultant fees required to do
something they needed a lot more.

It was -not- a commentary on anything in particular related to your
post/thread.  It was strictly in response to Jose's assertion that
people on the list (and elsewhere) tend to be tight-fisted.  In my
experience, that tight-fistedness is very selective, and usually in a
self-defeating fashion.

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On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 06:31:22AM -0500, Cesar Baquerizo via Filepro-list thus spoke:
> Thank you all for replies. Just to close the loop:
> 
> 1. Rebuilding all the indexes fixed the problem.
> 2. Nope. Not a money issue. It works period, and for whatever god-forsaken reason (it works, it's comfortable, really afraid of change, etc.), the principals do NOT want to switch software. And with all due respect to very long lasting, capable, and robust piece of software...Any upgrade would be to non-Filepro. Absolutely no need to reinvent existing technology. It is time however, for a hardware refresh, maybe VM, etc. **Yep you're right. They'll spend an arm and a leg for this willingly. But never under-spec'd.
> 3. CRM - That's cute ????
> 4. One last point. Posting to a list is not about getting free, or undervaluing your service, expertise (or person?). IMO, It's about users sharing expertise and common experience. If a list isn't about that, then of what use is the list? As an expert, I'm sure your thoughts and written response took much less time than this email. If I could help someone, I would respond. I doubt many, if any would expect free service, but it's simple to move on and not respond. That said...Thanks for the response.
> 
> Thanks for the feedback all.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Filepro-list <filepro-list-bounces+ces=cescom.com at lists.celestial.com> On Behalf Of Fairlight via Filepro-list
> Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:40 AM
> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Subject: Re: FW: fatal error: unexpected SIGSEGV in emulator mode
> 
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 09:05:43AM -0500, Jose Lerebours via Filepro-list thus spoke:
> > 
> > I agree 110% here ... things that came to mind were
> > 
> > 1. HD sector
> > 2. memory
> > 3. larger than supported file sizes
> > 4. a corrupt filePro map/key segment
> 
> Sounds like a sanely prioritised list.  Concur, sight-unseen.
> 
> > Wouldn't `fsck` help to at least verify HD condition in such event?
> 
> Yes, it should do.
> 
> > > I honestly think you're being pretty militant about wanting to toss 
> > > out the baby with the bathwater.  It sounds like an isolated problem 
> > > which may be fixable without upgrading everything under the sun.
> 
> > lol - not really, I just never understood why people depend on 
> > software to run their business and yet never do anything to keep said 
> > software up to date.
> 
> Well, -I- don't work that way, but I know plenty of people who do.
> Everyone has different priorities.
> 
> What'll -really- tweak my temper into high gear are people who will gladly drop $15k+ for an underspecced, overpriced system with Dell (and half the time the specs don't match the needs), and then bitch about a mere $2k in software or consulting fees to solve an actual problem.  Nothing says, "I don't value your expertise, or even respect you as a person," like being literally -shown- that your assistance is less valued than shite hardware from a mediocre vendor.
> 
> > Look, I like classic cars as much as any guy/gal, but I would not take 
> > a 1970s car across country if I have never changed the timing belt or 
> > even a change of oil, spark plugs ...  It runs, but will I take it on 
> > a cross country ride?
> 
> Fair point.  And more even salient when you start talking motorcycles.  :)
> 
> Dude, I won't go out for a 2hr ride without adjusting tyre pressure if the temperature fluctuated 20F+.  My life depends on that being reasonably accurate, and I'm a paragon of caution.
> 
> > Lets wait and see what fpTech has to say about this knowing that they 
> > monitor this list - to a degree ...
> 
> They're not going to say a thing.  They won't help with 5.0.14; you really honestly think they're going to utter so much as a peep about 4.5?  Nothing beyond, "That's no longer a supported version.  You can upgrade.  Contact sales."  That's been their M.O., at least publicly, as long as I can remember them deprecating old versions.  And they got militant about it when they deprecated 5.0.
> 
> I wouldn't hold my breath.  Not with Ken gone, anyway.
> 
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