Filepro-list Digest, Vol 200, Issue 34
Fairlight
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Fri Oct 2 07:11:26 PDT 2020
I just unsubbed him.
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On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 01:19:31PM +0000, Walter Vaughan Jr via Filepro-list thus spoke:
> I did put his email in the unsubscribe box and submitted it. However someone who has access to Stewart's email will have to I believe click on it. Unless Mark or Bill can do something, that is...
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> | 1. 5.0.14 - freechain? (Fairlight)
> | 2. Re: 5.0.14 - freechain? (Jose Lerebours)
> | 3. RE: 5.0.14 - freechain? (Walter Vaughan Jr)
> | 4. RE: 5.0.14 - freechain? (Richard Kreiss)
> | 5. Re: 5.0.14 - freechain? (Jay R. Ashworth)
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> |Message: 1
> |Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 09:11:41 -0400
> |From: Fairlight <fairlite at fairlite.com>
> |To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> |Subject: 5.0.14 - freechain?
> |Message-ID: <20200930131141.GL850699 at fairlite.com>
> |Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii | |We've started seeing the freechain command popping up in atop and top |for a specific filePro file. It runs at 100% of a CPU core worth of |usage for multiple seconds, then exits. It's doing this regularly.
> |
> |What is likely causing it to run, and how do we rectify whatever is |going on? We've not really seen this before a day ago, and we have been |monitoring this system for ages.
> |
> |Thanks!
> |
> |mark->
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> |Message: 2
> |Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 09:49:33 -0400
> |From: Jose Lerebours <fpgroups at gmail.com>
> |To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> |Subject: Re: 5.0.14 - freechain?
> |Message-ID: <20463566-db99-46a2-c4b6-a45145b386f3 at gmail.com>
> |Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed | |A couple of things come to mind:
> |
> |1. While the application is old, the causing code may have been recently |introduced |2. Make sure you are not changing real fields within automatic process |(specially fields auto indexes are based on) |3. Possibly a file you are writing to or deleting from has a lot of |"deleted" records or writing/deleting record that is not locked |4. Deleting a record from file with a lot of automatic indexes |5. Your table has reached a size that the freechain message is now |visible where before, it happened so fast it was not a concern thus the |root cause may be there for a while ...
> |
> |if you have a table with a lot deleted records (blank in key file), it |is best to purge the delete records but not sure if a good idea if you |use @rn to manage tables relationship.
> |
> |I have not seen this message in such a long time that I do not recall if |it shows the file name for which the chain is being rebuilt; this is |relevant since you can be altering any number of records in any number |of tables at any given time ... specially if you running a loop or |recursive type routine.
> |
> |
> |On 9/30/20 9:11 AM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
> |> We've started seeing the freechain command popping up in atop and top |> for a specific filePro file. It runs at 100% of a CPU core worth of |> usage for multiple seconds, then exits. It's doing this regularly.
> |>
> |> What is likely causing it to run, and how do we rectify whatever is |> going on? We've not really seen this before a day ago, and we have been |> monitoring this system for ages.
> |>
> |> Thanks!
> |>
> |> mark->
> |
> |
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> |
> |Message: 3
> |Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 18:59:30 +0000
> |From: Walter Vaughan Jr <wvaughan at steelerubber.com>
> |To: "filepro-list at lists.celestial.com"
> | <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> |Subject: RE: 5.0.14 - freechain?
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> |I used to blame it on solar activity back in the day, because there was no |reason other it did seem to happen more often when there was known |issues with sunspot levels.
> |
> |IIRC what you are seeing is the correct behavior, however when it hangs |when running in the background, *that* is the interesting bit. Everyone out |of the system and a manual run of freechain with full backups and a way to |fix broken key/data offset points. Don't miss those days.
> |
> |I see that we are in a solar activity lull so my wives tale is of no use
> |https://spaceweatherarchive.com/2019/04/10/experts-predict-the-solar-
> |cycle/
> |
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Filepro-list <filepro-list-
> |bounces+wvaughan=steelerubber.com at lists.celestial.com> On Behalf Of |Fairlight via Filepro-list
> |Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:12 AM
> |To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> |Subject: 5.0.14 - freechain?
> |
> |We've started seeing the freechain command popping up in atop and top for |a specific filePro file. It runs at 100% of a CPU core worth of usage for |multiple seconds, then exits. It's doing this regularly.
> |
> |What is likely causing it to run, and how do we rectify whatever is going on?
> |We've not really seen this before a day ago, and we have been monitoring |this system for ages.
> |
> |Thanks!
> |
> |mark->
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> |Message: 4
> |Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 19:26:54 +0000
> |From: Richard Kreiss <rkreiss at gccconsulting.net>
> |To: Walter Vaughan Jr <wvaughan at steelerubber.com>,
> | "'filepro-list at lists.celestial.com'"
> | <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> |Subject: RE: 5.0.14 - freechain?
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> | <MN2PR04MB676756098C211A49090FD503B7330 at MN2PR04MB6767
> |.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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> |
> |Since this most likely is a *nix system, I would suggest looking at the |hardware side of the issue.
> |
> |I have a client where a free chain rebuild on one file is set off on one |computer(windows system) each time(at least once a month). Did a rebuild |yesterday and about a month ago on this file.
> |
> |So, is the issue happening on the same machine each time or is it random?
> I
> |use the term machine as I do not know of this a terminal or a computer |running a terminal emulator.
> |
> |
> |Richard Kreiss
> |GCC Consulting
> |
> |
> |
> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From: Filepro-list <filepro-list-
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> |> On Behalf Of Walter Vaughan Jr via Filepro-list |> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 3:00 PM |> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com |> Subject: RE: 5.0.14 - freechain?
> |>
> |> I used to blame it on solar activity back in the day, because there was no |reason |> other it did seem to happen more often when there was known issues |with |> sunspot levels.
> |>
> |> IIRC what you are seeing is the correct behavior, however when it hangs |when |> running in the background, *that* is the interesting bit. Everyone out of |the |> system and a manual run of freechain with full backups and a way to fix |broken |> key/data offset points. Don't miss those days.
> |>
> |> I see that we are in a solar activity lull so my wives tale is of no use |> https://spaceweatherarchive.com/2019/04/10/experts-predict-the-solar-
> |cycle/
> |>
> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From: Filepro-list <filepro-list-
> |> bounces+wvaughan=steelerubber.com at lists.celestial.com> On Behalf Of |> Fairlight via Filepro-list |> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:12 AM |> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com |> Subject: 5.0.14 - freechain?
> |>
> |> We've started seeing the freechain command popping up in atop and top |for a |> specific filePro file. It runs at 100% of a CPU core worth of usage for |multiple |> seconds, then exits. It's doing this regularly.
> |>
> |> What is likely causing it to run, and how do we rectify whatever is going on?
> |> We've not really seen this before a day ago, and we have been monitoring |this |> system for ages.
> |>
> |> Thanks!
> |>
> |> mark->
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> |Message: 5
> |Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 04:32:02 +0000 (UTC)
> |From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra at baylink.com>
> |To: Filepro 2 List <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> |Subject: Re: 5.0.14 - freechain?
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> |----- Original Message -----
> |> From: "Fairlight via Filepro-list" <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> |
> |> We've started seeing the freechain command popping up in atop and top |> for a specific filePro file. It runs at 100% of a CPU core worth of |> usage for multiple seconds, then exits. It's doing this regularly.
> |>
> |> What is likely causing it to run, and how do we rectify whatever is |> going on? We've not really seen this before a day ago, and we have been |> monitoring this system for ages.
> |
> |What's the parent process, and can you see commandline switches?
> |
> |Cheers,
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