Printer issue - new

Thu Feb 20 08:58:09 PST 2020

Besides a few extra services and a lot extra in licensing fees, there
are very few things Server will get you that Win10 won't.  If one can,
one probably should save the money.  It's the fiscally responsible thing
to do.

As filePro isn't really doing anything kernel-specific, or
Windows-version-specific (beyond the fact that at some point MS changed
the console window API), there's really nothing for fP Tech to do other
than make sure it works on Windows.

m->

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 10:38:16AM -0500, Jose Lerebours via Filepro-list thus spoke:
> Wouldn't `netcat` be a generic solution to reaching printers across
> intra/extranet?
> 
> Why use USB only printers and then struggle with this!?!  Get a printer that
> can be given an IP, regardless of the PC it is attached to and use `netcat`
> in lieu of "print" or "lp".
> 
> What am I missing here?
> 
> On a side note, when did WIN 10 become a "Server OS"?  We are trying to run
> away from "complexity" and render our topology worthless.  There was a time
> where one had a "real server" or "servers" and I just do not remember this
> kind of things being as much of an issue.
> 
> It is so nice for us to turn to fpTech for solutions for the problems we
> create by making bad decisions - We save $$$ and then expect filePro to do
> things that are only a problem because of the decision we've made.  It is as
> if to say, well, I am allowed to do a bad infrastructure design and filePro
> is responsible thus fpTech has to fix it ...
> 
> Am I the only one that see something wrong with this?
> 
> 
> On 2/20/20 9:55 AM, Richard D. Williams via Filepro-list wrote:
> > That's what I thought.
> > 
> > If I have a printer on a Linux server I just need to add that to my
> > config file.
> > Then, anyone can reach it.
> > 
> > When a printer is added to the FP Windows config, does not that printer
> > need to be on each PC?
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > There is no universal way
> > 
> > On 2/19/2020 6:31 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
> > > Find, as in actual discovery?  Highly, highly doubtful.  I'd go so
> > > far as
> > > saying 99.9999%+ unlikely.
> > > 
> > > That would require wayyyyy more work than I can ever see fP Tech putting
> > > in.  Hell, HP and Brother can't even get that 100% right, and they write
> > > the damned drivers for their own printers.  (Literally, HP printers get
> > > lost, and Brother's driver is only fine once you coax it into
> > > knowing where
> > > the printer is.  It was -not- PnP.  At least the Brother stays
> > > connected, which is more than I could say for the HP.)
> > > 
> > > More succinctly: "Hah!  No way in hell do I believe it can do it!"
> > > 
> > > m->
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 03:37:44PM -0600, Richard D. Williams via
> > > Filepro-list thus spoke:
> > > > Does windows filepro have the ability to find a printer not on
> > > > the users PC?
> > > > 
> > > > Richard D. Williams
> > > > 
> > > > On 2/19/2020 1:27 PM, Richard Kreiss via Filepro-list wrote:
> > > > > Filepro 5.0
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Client installed a new "server" named data1 running Windows
> > > > > 10 Pro with an
> > > > > HP Printer attached using a USB port labeled virtual porter
> > > > > port for USB.
> > > > > Printer name is: HP Officejet Pro 8100
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > This printer is connected to "server" data1.  In filePro's printer
> > > > > maintenance this printer is named HP-8100 and the
> > > > > destination is win: HP
> > > > > Officejet Pro 8100. This printer is set to the default
> > > > > printer. I can print
> > > > > from data1 but not any of the other computer.  Any
> > > > > suggestions as to why
> > > > > this issue occurs.  If someone tries to print an output they
> > > > > get a filePro
> > > > > error and then an 1801 error message which means that the print job is
> > > > > having issues with the windows defender firewall.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I created an new incoming rule called printers opening the
> > > > > ports that the
> > > > > printers are using.  Should I also create an outgoing rule.
> > > > > No I have not
> > > > > had my client's test the new firewall rule yet.  I have not
> > > > > run into this
> > > > > issue previously.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am accessing the new "server" data1 using GoToMyPC and
> > > > > have not had a
> > > > > difficulty creating outputs.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I did not set up this server or configure the other
> > > > > computers for access.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > filePro is installed in the folder appl which is mapped as
> > > > > drive L.  The
> > > > > startup file is:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > echo off
> > > > > 
> > > > > rem Run levy Goldbery & stettner program
> > > > > 
> > > > > rem Richard Kreiss 03/03/2010
> > > > > 
> > > > > set PFDSK=L
> > > > > 
> > > > > set PFDATA=L:
> > > > > 
> > > > > set PFPROG=L:\appl
> > > > > 
> > > > > set PFDIR=\appl
> > > > > 
> > > > > set PFGLOB=
> > > > > 
> > > > > set PFCONFIG=
> > > > > 
> > > > > set PFKeyTab=DOS
> > > > > 
> > > > > set PFTMP=C:\temp
> > > > > 
> > > > > set PATH=%PFPROG%\fp;%path%
> > > > > 
> > > > > %pfprog%\fp\p lg_menu
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any suggestions as to why filePro is not finding the printer?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I may have to have this client upgrade to version 6 and
> > > > > create PDF's for
> > > > > printing if all else fails.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Richard Kreiss
> > > > > 
> > > > > GCC Consulting
> > > > > 
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