Backing up your linux server & filePro w/ it

Thu Apr 19 10:22:27 PDT 2018

I'm not sure you've got that big an understanding of BackupEDGE or what it does / can do.

Other than using snapshots, which are relatively easy to implement using our triggering tools if you are on the right sort of platform, filePro doesn't lend itself to the way things work in, say, our MySQL / MariaDB backup Domain. If it had its own backup tool we could implement it in a similar fashion.

Typical clients do unattended backups at night. In 24-hour operations, getting backups of flat-file-type applications is always a challenge without snapshots or special tools.

BackupEDGE has many claims-to-fame. Among those...
- Bare Metal Recovery (number one).
- The ability to back up to darn-near anything...
  - Physical media, i.e. tape, optical, removable disk, flash.
  - Network-attached storage over FTP/FTPS, NFS. CIFS.
  - Cloud Storage to places like Amazon, Google, Wasabi, etc.
- The ability to back up to local storage and then automatically send copies to cloud storage.
- An extremely powerful and flexible Scheduler.
- The ability to Restore individual files and directories almost instantly.

BackupEDGE is deployed around the world because it works, is reliable, stable and inexpensive.

Veeam is good at what it does, but works on full image scale. Try to get a quick partial file restore from it when you are in a hurry. Or try to get inexpensive off-site backups. Everything has a price.

Tom Podnar
Microlite Corporation 

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From: "Fairlight via Filepro-list" <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 12:29:24 PM
Subject: Re: Backing up your linux server & filePro w/ it

After seeing the message from Tom Podnar that you still have to manually
quiesce your system to get a solid backup, why are you recommending the
product?

I'm genuinely curious.  filePro, like any database, is subject to having
segments of files updated (pick any part of any record) while the backup is
running.  You could be 2/3 through a 4GB file, and someone could update a
record in that file, and the backup would not necessarily be correct.  The
key/data segments may not match the indexes (or it could be a 'transaction'
which modifies multiple files, but they're all out of sync to what they
should be), etc.

You know what your product does, and how it's used.  Why would you
recommend something which can't guarantee solid and cohesive backups unless
everyone holds their breath around the server during the backup process?

AFAICT, Edge is not any better in avoiding this than normal tar would
be.  If I'm missing something, do let me know.  I'm therefore really not
sure why everyone is so keen on Edge, other than the fancy wrapper.  The
actual backups themselves seem just as fragile as any tar/cpio solution
I've ever seen, from what I'm reading.  I'd think Tom would have taken the
opportunity to point out what I'm missing, if there was something to point
out.

I'm not out to bash Edge.  For what it does, it's probably top of the
line.  It's just that what it does is not enough in a 24/7 environment.
I'd personally like to know about a backup solution which actually ensures
complete data integrity.  I'm not sure why people aren't looking at
something like Veeam, which does ensure snapshot integrity.

mark->

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:34:31PM -0400, fP sales via Filepro-list thus spoke:
> BackupEDGE
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> On 4/18/2018 4:29 PM, Jose Lerebours via Filepro-list wrote:
> >OK gals/guys, tell me what you would do should you need to backup your linux server.
> >
> >Thanks you all!
> >
> >
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