PHP and filepro - login lesson

Fri Apr 13 11:29:23 PDT 2018

Richard,

I understand exactly and agree with you.
I never expect anything for free.

That being said, I have benefited from many people in person or via 
there posts on other sites.
I think it is important to share.

I do not begrudge Mark his $995 for OneGate.  Those who have used it 
generally like it very much.
But we should we to bring useful coding help to those who might look at 
this list as a resource?

Somebody may not know what they don't know and be afraid to ask to this 
list.
Generally not a friendly place.

The "age" thread did one thing.  It showed we are old and getting older.
If FP is going to exist in the future, we need more and younger programmers.
Let's show how FP can be a fantastic text orientated data input program 
and a
robust back end for very new looking web apps.

Some Airlines, Home Depot, Lowes, and other large. medium, and small 
companies still use text oriented programs.
We need to change our look, our focus, and our capabilities.  That 
requires more knowledge.
I certainly do not know everything.  A recent email makes me want to 
take a closer look at OneGate.
I may get some time this year to do just that.

Richard D. Williams

On 4/13/2018 10:49 AM, Richard Kreiss wrote:
> Any programming language has its flaws or security issues. The issue that Mark rails against are people whose programming methods leave greater security issues. If everyone’s code were absolutely secure, hackers would not be able to do the damage they are doing.
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> Consider the history of the careless programming that affected Unix computers years ago when an individual created a bot to send back information about each server it accessed. It was supposed to replicate itself once and move to the next sever. There was an error in the code and it kept replicating, after moving to the next server,  on the current server until there was no disc space left. This caused a lot of servers to shut down.
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> How many times have experienced programmers written code that had security flaws?
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> Mark, at least endeavors to make sure his coding is secure. The issue is how secure the tools are that one is working with. If one doesn’t understand this, code can have security holes. Think of all of the app updates for smartphones that arrive almost daily. Microsoft used a piece of public domain software and for some unexplained reason removed the code which made the software very secure.
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> Mark’s comment on not giving his work product away free is his choice. There have been developers on this list who have given code away without charge and others who have charged. No one complained about purchasing John Esak’s accounting software or his “pig in a Polk”.
>   
> Your complaints remind me of the early Napster users. “We don’t want to pay for anything at . That was their mantra.
>
> Richard Kreiss
> GCC Consulting.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:33 AM, Richard D. Williams via Filepro-list <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com> wrote:
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>> Any FP programmer who would like to know how php, javascript, and filepro can work together can contact me directly and I will be happy to get you started.
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>> No Charge!
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>> Yes, PHP may not be the best, it just works.  PHP is very powerful and flexible.
>> But who really is to say what is the best?  Mark?
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>> It is time to share.  Filepro needs to change and we as programmers need to give our clients a new look and a new capability.
>>
>> Richard D. Williams
>>
>>
>> Richard D. williams
>> I On 4/13/2018 4:28 AM, Wayne Smith via Filepro-list wrote:
>>> It would seem that fairlight is very apprehensive about showing any of his
>>> filePro (not in the cards)  or Perl  code examples......mmmmm I am reminded
>>> of sitting in a poker game....."Put up or shut up"
>>>
>>> Thanks Richard W for all your help and great samples,   Jose L  thank you
>>> for that great example of  PHP to filePro.
>>>
>>> I know that nothing will shut him up as he has self-qualified himself to
>>> spew his opinion on everything in the industry.
>>>
>>> Wayne Smith
>>> Port Orange, Florida
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Fairlight via Filepro-list <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>>> Date: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: PHP and filepro - login lesson
>>> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
>>>
>>>
>>> My Perl code is commercial.  I'd love to show you the source code to
>>> OneGate or xml2csv.  That'll be $995 (each), please.
>>>
>>> m->
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:40:20PM -0500, Richard D. Williams via
>>> Filepro-list thus spoke:
>>>> Wow! Who would of thought that sharing would be a "blood sport".
>>>> BTW.  I never implied, in anyway, that PHP is the only way to go.
>>>>
>>>> Would someone like top post a similar example in Perl?
>>>>
>>>> This list should be about sharing knowledge, not opinions.
>>>> If Perl is so great with Filepro, show me.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/12/2018 6:27 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 06:00:32PM -0400, Jose Lerebours via
>>> Filepro-list thus spoke:
>>>>>> If I did not know better I would think you just called two of us
>>>>>> "idiots" ...
>>>>> No.  I'm saying that the language's user pool is populated with far too
>>>>> many of them, though.  I'm sure there were 15-25 smart AOL users
>>> scattered
>>>>> to the far corners of the globe, as well.
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