Fwd: PHP and filepro - login lesson

Fri Apr 13 02:28:35 PDT 2018

It would seem that fairlight is very apprehensive about showing any of his
filePro (not in the cards)  or Perl  code examples......mmmmm I am reminded
of sitting in a poker game....."Put up or shut up"

Thanks Richard W for all your help and great samples,   Jose L  thank you
for that great example of  PHP to filePro.

I know that nothing will shut him up as he has self-qualified himself to
spew his opinion on everything in the industry.

Wayne Smith
Port Orange, Florida

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From: Fairlight via Filepro-list <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
Date: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: PHP and filepro - login lesson
To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com

My Perl code is commercial.  I'd love to show you the source code to
OneGate or xml2csv.  That'll be $995 (each), please.

m->

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:40:20PM -0500, Richard D. Williams via
Filepro-list thus spoke:
> Wow! Who would of thought that sharing would be a "blood sport".
> BTW.  I never implied, in anyway, that PHP is the only way to go.
>
> Would someone like top post a similar example in Perl?
>
> This list should be about sharing knowledge, not opinions.
> If Perl is so great with Filepro, show me.
>
> Richard
>
> On 4/12/2018 6:27 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
> >On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 06:00:32PM -0400, Jose Lerebours via
Filepro-list thus spoke:
> >>If I did not know better I would think you just called two of us
> >>"idiots" ...
> >No.  I'm saying that the language's user pool is populated with far too
> >many of them, though.  I'm sure there were 15-25 smart AOL users
scattered
> >to the far corners of the globe, as well.  That doesn't really redeem the
> >platform.
> >
> >>Not exactly lack of consistency in the writing of code but rather
> >>evolving methods/classes or simply experimenting with UI/UX - Say
> >>jQuery or NodeJS or Angular JS or pure JS ... bootstrap or good old
> >>CSS/CSS3 ... I constantly ask "what if" when writing code and enjoy
> >>the chase.
> >To an extent, that works.  There's definitely a pair of large seats at
the
> >head of the table for stability and known quantities, though.
> >
> >>All that said, I am sure that all of these flaws can be accredited
> >>to WordPress, Zend 2, CakePHP etc. In other words, the so called
> >>"frameworks" that are just out of control and some poorly
> >>implemented.
> >Nope.  I mean, WP has had its share of issues (besides being a -horribly-
> >dog-slow design which will only barely function without a massive amount
of
> >caching, which in my opinion defeats half the purpose of dynamic content
in
> >the first place).  There were just -so- many shopping carts, community
> >forums, control panels, etc., which were written by someone out there who
> >obviously didn't even bother picking up a leaflet relating to security.
> >
> >There are decent modules written for WP and Joomla, but they're only as
> >good as the parent product allows them to be.
> >
> >WP really wants a complete redesign from the ground up, preferably in
> >another language.  It's only gotten worse over the years.
> >
> >>No programming/scripting language is without flaws, some more than
> >>others.  PHP may rank worst than Perl in many areas but that is the
> >>price it paid for growing so fast and so openly (too many hands in
> >>the pot).
> >Perl's main flaws are an OO layer which is, well...unconventional.  It's
> >OO in presentation, but from what I gather it's a bit of a hack job under
> >the hood.  That said, it -works-, and the -only- time I've ever seen Perl
> >crash was due to a Red Hat patch they rolled themselves.  And you know
it's
> >bad when someone screws up either int(), sort(), or return().  I'm
guessing
> >it was somewhere in sort(), but could never narrow it down further than
> >the three.  They never fixed it.  It suffered that to the EOL date of the
> >OS.  I rolled parallel installs of the same exact official Perl version,
> >compiled by me, on the same OS, and my binaries were fine.
> >
> >>I still love PHP and I know can pickup Perl and write code in Perl
> >>with the same ease I do PHP or filePro, I mean, it is not like Perl
> >>is for Geniuses only.  ;-)   Is it?
> >Depends how far you take it.  I have seen some really whacked one-liners.
> >I'm not talking just writing a script in a single line.  I'm talking
> >writing what seems to be modem line noise which actually does something
> >functionally useful.
> >
> >I'm not personally fond of abusing a language that badly.  It's funny,
> >because when I was a kid, I couldn't be bribed to comment my code, no
> >matter how obscure.  It was actually a point of pride with me that I
didn't
> >need to.  Nowadays, I can't live without comments.
> >
> >The code should mostly document itself, but should also have clear
comments
> >for key points and tricky bits, and even just for flow in some cases.
> >Otherwise, you go away for six months or six years, need to come back to
> >it when someone wants a change, and you have no clue where to even start
> >without doing three days' worth of analysis.  Nobody can memorise more
than
> >a certain percentage of a bunch of different codebases.
> >
> >m->
>
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