OT: *nix OS

[Richard D. Williams]

This news just breaking.

I agree with Mark!

Many of the hardware changes had to be made to make these device work 
with Windows at some acceptable level.
Linux just takes advantage of these capabilities in better ways.

I have not had much experience with FP on Windows, but what I have seen 
is so very slow.
I do not know how a client can stand it.  Except they do not know any 
better. (Linux)

My 2 cents,

Richard D. Williams

On 4/9/2018 8:03 AM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 07:30:31AM +0000, Richard Kreiss via Filepro-list
> thus spoke:
>> Keep in mind that most of the hardware improvements available to the *nix
>> community have come about because of the Windows operating system.
> How do you figure -this-?  Half the 'improvements' result in host-dependent
> devices which require whole new drivers to be written by -someone- in the
> Linux world so that they even work.
>
> I would dispute your assertion.
>
>> Also, most of the development of video boards, NICs and USB cards have
>> been for Windows based computers with some of the manufacturers also
>> supporting *nix.
> Thus undermining your own point...
>
>> The availability of SSDs has come about by the need for more storage
>> space on smart phones and other devices which take pictures. Prices have
>> dropped drastically while performance a quality have improves markedly.
>> The newer M.2 SSD drives offer even better performance.  Running *nix
>> and *nix based application on these type of drives offer even better
>> performance improvements over Windows.  Larger HDDs is also an outgrowth
>> of the space needed by Windows based applications as well as the size of
>> photo files.
> SSDs have nothing to do with Windows.  That's like thanking Boeing for
> inventing draft.
>
>> When I read reviews of these processors performance, the testing is
>> normally done on a Windows based computer.  You all are taking advantage
>> of manufactures improving their offerings to meet the requirements of
>> Windows.
> If by "taking advantage of" and "meet the requirements of" you mean "doing
> something useful with the extra overhead freed up by not running a shite
> OS", then sure, I agree with you.
>
> Again, your evaluation falls short of realistic.  This is like taking the
> engine from a ridiculously overweight armoured vehicle, slapping it into a
> racing truck made of much lighter materials and getting -useful- speeds out
> of it, and then thanking the people who built the 9mph tank.  It doesn't
> make the 9mph tank -any- better at all at what it does.  It simply means
> the racing truck was better designed.
>
>> If memory serves, many of the *nix installations ran on Motorola
>> processors.  I am going to assume that most if not all of the
>> installations today are using Intel X86 type of multicore processors
> That's probably a horrible assumption, if you count Android, which is based
> on Linux.  If we count Android, it would not surprise me if ARM took the
> majority market share.
>
> Now, using your logic, Android should thank Apple because Apple has shown
> just how badly something can be bloated and then one-upped, simply because
> they did it less efficiently, first.
>
>> Another question, when was the last time you had to set dip switches on
>> a card being installed?
> About 1993, on a Pro Audio Spectrum sound card.  How is this remotely
> attributable to Microsoft or Windows?  The move away from DIP switches
> appears to have predated Windows.  Windows also had to have code written to
> handle PnP.
>
>> By the way, Microsoft has made installing and configuring Windows Server
>> 2012 much simpler.
> Yes.  Now a McDonalds cash register clerk can also do it, instead of
> requiring a McDonalds fry cook.  It was never rocket science.
>
> Just how big a MS fanboy are you, Richard?  You're giving a staggering
> amount of credit where credit is not due.  I have't seen this much rampant
> fanboyism since the last time I wandered into an iPhone vs Android
> 'debate'.
>
> mark->