Importing/exporting data with carriage returns (I Think)

Fairlight fairlite at fairlite.com
Sat Aug 26 16:45:12 PDT 2017


That's your second mistake with me in one day.  You're not really quick on
the uptake, are you?

FOR THE SECOND TIME:  You have zero say in what I offer or do not offer you
on this list.  I don't really give a damn what you feel would have been
nice.  You're not paying me to be nice.  You're not paying me for anything.
If I'm on the clock with a paying customer, offlist, I'll be as nice to the
person paying me as you could ask.  If I'm not being paid, and I'm simply
offering help in a public venue, for free, you get whatever I feel like
at that moment.  You're not entitled to make demands of any sort unless
there's a formal arrangement which specifies that you do.  I'm not sure
where people get this entitled attitude from, but it doesn't fly with me.

If I were interested in taking you on, I'd have responded offlist, as I've
done with others.  I specifically -don't- want to take you on, as you sound
like a tremendously bad ROI time-sink, based on your messages here.  I've
lost track of how many people have been helping you, and you're still at
it, with no end in sight.  No thanks.  Pass.  I tried to help you within
reasonable constraints and boundaries, but you don't even respect that.
Again, pass.

mark->


On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 07:12:45PM -0400, Mike Fedkiw thus spoke:
> I certainly understand that this help forum is a free place to gain
> a bit of help at times but if you read my posts I also indicated
> that I would much rather be paying someone to help me out instead of
> spending hours of time that I really don't have either trying to
> figure this out on my own.
> 
> 
> What might have been nice is a reply like this to my initial post...
> 
> "Mike, if you're interested in getting this done fairly quickly, I
> can certainly help you out. Send an email to (________ at fairlite.com)
> with an outline of exactly what you're needing and I'll reply with
> my rates and an estimated  time frame for your project.
> 
> m"
> 
> 
> Instead of replying the way you did if you didn't want to give any
> further information, you could have simply not replied.
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/26/2017 2:52 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
> >Also, my keyboard is acting up again and dropping letters.  I should
> >probably replace it with the spare I bought a year ago for this
> >eventuality.  However, it's the weekend, and I can't be arsed.
> >
> >Apologies for the typos.  I was too pissed off to proofread more
> >thoroughly.
> >
> >m->
> >
> >On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 02:47:54PM -0400, Fairlight via Filepro-list thus spoke:
> >>On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 02:36:05PM -0400, Mike Fedkiw thus spoke:
> >>>    I appreciate all the help I've been able to get from people replying to
> >>>    my posts on here. Please understand though, I only write a few things
> >>>    in filepro for my own company. So making statements like this
> >>>Just pretend I never said anything which might actually help you, that all
> >>>you will ever have or use are tools to which you've already been exposed,
> >>>and that you don't need to do any research of moderate depth on your own in
> >>>order to solve -your- problems.
> >>>
> >>>    I don't think is very fair and certainly not helpful in any way. If I
> >>>    have no clue what all this Linux, perl, tr, sed, \001, \007 are why not
> >>>    try and help me out, I thought that was what this was for???
> >>I -did- try to help you out.  It was apparently beyond your understanding.
> >>Going further than that exceeds the scope of what I'm willing to do gratis
> >>on this list.  I'm available for contract at my normal hourly rates, if you
> >>really want/need an in-depth explanation from the ground up.
> >>
> >>That's one of the things that really pisses me off about certain
> >>communities.  "Oh, my tools let me do -wonders- without having to really
> >>understand anything about what I'm doing, the principles involved, or the
> >>systems upon which I run!"  So they're suddenly God, because they can
> >>'program' without any formal education.  Then they hit a stumbling block,
> >>and expect the answer to be delivered in full, pressed, starched, polished,
> >>and spit-shined, on a silver platter, gratis.
> >>
> >>NO.
> >>
> >>Some of us have spent decades building our knowledge base, doing our own
> >>researh, etc.  Nobody is -entitled- to our knowledge or our work for free.
> >>If we choose to give it, that's our choice.  The extent to which we are
> >>willing to give it in a venue like this is -our- choce.  People are -not-
> >>at liberty to dictate the terms of our benevolence unless they're handing
> >>us a paycheque, thank you very much.
> >>
> >>You probably shouldn't have crossed the line into 'hinting' that I should
> >>be -more- helpful, when I was already concisely helpful in the first place.
> >>You don't have that right unless it's your time, on your dime.  It's my
> >>frakking -weekend-, and I tried to help you anyway.  Then you want to bitch
> >>because you don't understand what I said, and take exception to me saying,
> >>"Y'know what?  More trouble than it's worth during my free time, just
> >>forget it."  No good deed goes unpunished, lemme tellya.
> >>
> >>This is why we can't have nice things.
> >>
> >>/rant
> >>
> >>mark->
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> 

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