FilePro License Manager
Mike Fedkiw
mfedkiwfp at gmail.com
Wed Aug 16 19:23:26 PDT 2017
And this is exactly my problem with any version that includes their
license manager.
/"If you open 3-5 windows for development or runtime, each opened from
scratch (i.e., not from an already open filepro execution), then I
believe they count as separate sessions. We have based our license
purchases on this assumption."
/Apparently you're running a newer version with the license manager but
you can't tell me how it actually handles the licensing. This is nothing
negative towards you, I'm just back to where I started...having no clue
to exactly what will use up a license and what won't.
This is a problem because if I were looking to purchase a version with
the licensing manager, I certainly wouldn't want to be purchasing extra
licenses just in case. I'd need to know exactly what uses a license and
what doesn't. Nowhere have I ever seen something that can clearly
explain this.
Mike
On 8/16/2017 4:01 PM, Timothy R Barr wrote:
> First, when you order DEV and RT licenses, add the counts together to
> get the number of licenses for the right side of the developer menu.
> 5 Dev + 15 RT = 20 total users, 5 of whom can also do development.
>
> rclerk/rreport = dclerk/dreport for license purposes. the r* version
> use the tok tables for faster load time at execution.
>
> You can nest *clerk or *rreport from inside a filepro processing table
> as much as you want and it will use one license. We do this all the time.
>
> If you open 3-5 windows for development or runtime, each opened from
> scratch (i.e., not from an already open filepro execution), then I
> believe they count as separate sessions.
> We have based our license purchases on this assumption. However, I am
> going to experiment with building a "concurrent session launcher" that
> I could share.
>
> PS. As we upgrade to each new version, we have not had to re-write
> code (unless we wanted to use newly added features).
>
> Timothy R Barr, CPE, VP/CTO
> Evaluator Services and Technology, Inc
> 1801 Oberlin Rd, Suite 204
> Middletown, PA 17057
> 717-985-1122 x 1131
> 855-569-6022 (Tollfree Middletown)
> 855-500-6022 (Tollfree Fax)
> tim.barr at evalsvs.com <mailto:tim.barr at evalsvs.com>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Mike Fedkiw <mfedkiwfp at gmail.com
> <mailto:mfedkiwfp at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I can't even remember exactly how many developer/user sessions I
> purchased but I'm sure It's somewhere around 5 developer and maybe
> 15 user run-time or whatever they're called.
>
> My biggest problem with upgrading is lack of information to
> understand exactly how my licenses are determined, if you know I'd
> be interested in knowing how the following things would affect my
> licensing?
>
> To start with, I've never used rclerk or rreport for anything, all
> I ever use is declerk and dereport. I also do system commands
> containing dclerk or dreport from within programs all over the
> place. Depending on what you happen to be doing, at times you can
> be four, five or more deep into system dclerk commands. I also
> commonly have 3-5 windows open when working on writing or
> modifying processing tables.
>
> Do you know and can you explain how doing things like I laid out
> affect my licensing count? I've never seen any documentation that
> explained this very clearly.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> On 8/16/2017 2:48 PM, Timothy R Barr via Filepro-list wrote:
>
> Richard,
> I agree - and have also wondered why there is so much fear of
> the license
> manager.
> Although I didn't live down the street from SCC, I've used the
> product
> since the Model II floppy version of Profile. They custom
> wrote "special
> forms" and "math 64" for us back in the 80's.
>
> Anyway, all our new installs have been Windows-based and
> license-manager
> enabled since Y2K. I have had no problems with the license
> manager, with up
> to 160 "sessions".
> Yes, disconnected remote desktop sessions can eat some
> licenses. But we
> have a nightly.bat file that restarts the license manager, GI
> server,
> clears open share sessions, and then runs other nightly
> exports and
> processes.
>
> Our typical install includes enough PrintWizard licenses for
> each user (pc
> or remote session + 2 for the server). We order a 5 user Dev
> which seems
> to be enough for us to support each client. On top of the 5
> Runtimes (RTs)
> that come with the dev license, we add enough RTs for the
> number of
> "sessions" we expect to need. Spending an extra $145 for each
> power user
> is cheap in the scope of things.
>
> Now we do also use Filepro GI (for speed, html/image
> embedding, etc). Many
> of our clients will have fewer GI client licenses than total
> RTs. But even
> if a county wants all GI-enabled sessions, we just add another
> $345 to the
> price per session. ($145+$200)
>
>
> Now about sessions vs users, I think there is an important
> fact that many
> may not know....
>
> When you launch an rclerk (or rreport) from inside an existing
> processing
> table, it does NOT count against your licenses.
>
> We have features in our program that will stand on a file and
> then launch a
> "sub-session" to another file. Usually we do this in a way
> that the main
> program waits for the subprogram to finish. However, I
> believe I have a
> way to launch multiple independent rclerks from a host rclerk
> by launching
> the Windows "Start" command using "system".
>
> We already have a "login" filepro file that validates the
> user, counts
> their personal sessions (so we can keep printwizard jobs
> separate), sets
> their default environment, and finally sets and launches their
> specific
> "home menu". Power users get a different menu than data entry vs
> view-only. This process ends with creating a batch file which
> in turn
> contains "START p.exe menuname".
>
> I've been wanting to do some more testing before weighing in -
> but decided
> not to wait anymore.
>
> Bottom line, The license manager does not get in my way.
> And if I'm right about using START from inside an rclerk to
> launch multiple
> rclerks - I won't even need a "session count" anymore - just
> users.
>
>
> Timothy R Barr, CPE, VP/CTO
> Evaluator Services and Technology, Inc
> 1801 Oberlin Rd, Suite 204
> Middletown, PA 17057
> 717-985-1122 x 1131 <tel:717-985-1122%20x%201131>
> 855-569-6022 <tel:855-569-6022> (Tollfree Middletown)
> 855-500-6022 <tel:855-500-6022> (Tollfree Fax)
> tim.barr at evalsvs.com <mailto:tim.barr at evalsvs.com>
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