is it legal

[Fairlight]

*facepalm* I'm just going to pretend you didn't say cPanel was a security
solution. :b~~~

As for market size, try 'microscopic'.  The filePro community has been
slowly-but-steadily shrinking for years.  Some retired, some died,
others simply moved on to other tech.  There have been precious few
replacements coming into the community.  It's incredibly hard to find
filePro programmers outside this list.  Attrition has definitely taken a
toll, and will undoubtedly continue to do so, unchecked.  It's not like
there's any known active advertising to the mass market by fP Tech, or
we'd likely have heard about it on the list.  And that, IMNSHO, would be
a money-sink, as I consider the product all but unmarketable to modern
audiences.  Scarily, one of the closest analogues I can think of, dBase,
actually seems to have evolved more:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBase#Recent_history

Look at the features the new version sports, and compare to fP's feature
set (and known community wishlist).  But you don't really hear about them
very often, either.  And they were once huge.  There was a day and age you
couldn't take two steps without tripping over Lotus 123 and dBase.  That
era is long gone.

As for the legality, I believe I said to check the EULA for "lease" or
"leasing".  And then double-check with a lawyer.

Personally, I don't see the attraction, unless you're also providing access
to a development version.

All things considered, I think you'd be wasting your time.  It's yours to
waste, however.

mark->


On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 07:57:02PM -0400, Jose Lerebours via Filepro-list thus spoke:
> cPanel - this is the solution one needs - not a big deal.
> 
> There is nor should there be concern of one crossing over to the
> other and accessing data, scripts or any type of content.
> 
> cPanel is written, proven, it works, it is popular and very affordable.
> 
> The real question is, which remains to be answered, is it legal?
> 
> Of course, it would be nice to know if there is a true market.
> 
> I see value and great potential on this - what I am not too sure
> about is "market size"
> 
> 
> 
> On 03/19/2016 05:29 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
> >You were proposing keeping someone from accessing another qualifier in
> >their code...how?  And with opendir/readdir in filePro now, it's trivial to
> >discover the available qualifiers.
> >
> >m->
> >
> >On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 03:42:46PM -0400, Richard Kreiss thus spoke:
> >>>I see a caveat in terms of security.  You'd have to go to great lengths to
> >>protect
> >>>the clients from stepping over each other.  I'm guessing separate PFDIR
> >>>locations for each customer.  But that's not the whole story, since if you
> >>allow
> >>>shell access, they'd still be able to get into anyone else's code/data
> >>because
> >>>they all need to be filepro to do anything useful.
> >>An easier way to approach this would be to use qualified files and control
> >>access to the qualifier by set PFQUAL=.  This saves a lot of space as the
> >>programming is the same for all users with only the data files (Key, data
> >>and indexes) different.
> >>
> >>One should still provide front-end login requirements.
> >>
> >>Richard Kreiss
> >>
> >>>You'd have to provide a web front-end and enforce the segregation with
> >>>credentials.
> >>>
> >>>Sounds like a headache to maintain, but whatever floats your boat.
> >>>
> >>>Sounds like you need to check for "lease" terms in the EULA, given the
> >>>suggested business model.
> >>>
> >>>mark->
> >>>
> >>>On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 03:33:54PM -0400, Jose Lerebours via Filepro-list
> >>thus
> >>>spoke:
> >>>>After the thread about hosting filePro on the cloud, this comes to
> >>>>mind
> >>>>
> >>>>(a) Have a cloud server
> >>>>(b) Install 200 user run time license
> >>>>(c) Host filePro applications where
> >>>>(c1) Developer can upload tok/prc tables
> >>>>(c2) have users log on via client pointing to myapp.fileProruntime.com
> >>>>(c3) Provided added value benefits to ease data rendering on line
> >>>>(d) Charge based on fixed rate or whatever business possibilities of
> >>>>cost+
> >>>>
> >>>>I cannot see why this practice would not be legal since licenses are
> >>>>purchased as needed and ownership of the license is not transferred to
> >>>>registered accounts but 'granted access'.
> >>>>
> >>>>How many would sign up?
> >>>>
> >>>>
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