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Fri Jun 26 14:09:13 PDT 2015

Wow, I sure hope this is not directed at me; I jumped in as an attempt to
ease one off and keep him from leaving the list over a "flare" or "two"
advising that it is not new and it has been happening for years (this is no
lie and it is not unique to this list).

I never said Mark is mean, I did say he has poor side manner, heck, even
Mark can agree to this - Agree, typical of those that know what they are
talking about - Which I mention at the end that he does offer valuable
advise, just in poor taste (going back to bedside manner).  I've known
(virtually) Mark for years, have had a few flares with him (not for a long
while) and to this day, AFAIK, we have a good professional/virtual relation.

I quit asking questions on the list - heck, I don't even use filePro as I
once did.

Mark, if I were offensive or came across as aggressive or non-appreciative
of your efforts on behalf of the list, its members and the filePro community
as a whole, please accept my sincere apologies; this was not the intent.

Regards,

Jose Lerebours
954 559 7186

-----Original Message-----
From: Filepro-list
[mailto:filepro-list-bounces+fpgroups=gmail.com at lists.celestial.com] On
Behalf Of Brian K. White via Filepro-list
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 4:46 PM
To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
Subject: Re: Unsubscribe

These responses are pretty amusing.

Let's see,

RE quoting: No one cared about Tom's quoting until Tom tried to falsely
accuse someone else of lying, as a result of his own quoting error. He
punched someone in the nose and then says how mean the other guy is for
yelling about being punched in the nose? If he wants to leave because of
that, what else is there to say but good riddance?

RE Mark is mean: I often see people on techie lists whine about how mean the
guys who actually know what the hell they are doing are. I often see people
on techie lists who don't really know what they are doing giving out bad
advice and getting corrected and crying "I was just trying to help! EXCUUUSE
ME!" These are not even remotely valid charges. It's not very "nice" or
"helpful" to the poor guy getting bad advice tries to actually do what you
said. I'm not remotely sorry if you don't like it that you are wrong, or
don't understand or believe that you are wrong. 
I'm not remotely sorry that someone else is correct. I'm not remotely sorry
that you handle both of those two facts poorly. That's all on you. 
When Mark or anyone spends a fucking HOUR actually exhaustively testing
every tiny detail of some answer before hitting "send", for free, just so
you can cut & paste and it will be safe and actually work, that is way the
hell nicer than anything you ever did for him or the list.

--
bkw

On 6/26/2015 6:35 AM, Jose Lerebours via Filepro-list wrote:
> This is nothing new, it has been going on for as far as I can remember.
>
> About 8 years ago I used to be very active and passionate about the list
but
> there is only so much one can handle before it turns personal :-(
>
> I have kept my subscription but simply chose to lurk and when I feel I can
> offer a piece of code to help a member, I usually send the suggestion
> directly.
> I know, this defeats the purpose but, it is what I resorted to doing to
keep
> the list free of flame, fire, nasty exchange, etc. and of course, my
sanity.
>
> You should not unsubscribe just because Mark has no bedside manners,
ignore
> him
> and he will not fill his ego thus realizing he is rather not appreciated
> when he
> conducts himself in such manner.
>
> That being said, he does, at times, offer good advise just not in good
> taste!
>
> Stick around ...
>
> Sincerely;
>
>
> Jose D Lerebours
> 954 559 7186
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Filepro-list
> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+fpgroups=gmail.com at lists.celestial.com] On
> Behalf Of SmittyUSN1 via Filepro-list
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:45 AM
> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Subject: Re: Unsubscribe
>
> I couldn't have said that any better Tom Aldridge,   my sentiments
exactly.
> He (fairlight) has managed to turn the FP list into his own domain of
> rude/snide/hurtful remarks.   Yet another filePro person abandons ship,
how
>
> sad.
>
> Wayne Smith
> Port Orange, Florida
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Aldridge via Filepro-list
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:47 PM
> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Subject: Unsubscribe
>
> I always enjoyed learning from the people on the list.
>
> However, remarks such as those below by Fairlight are why I rarely posted,
> and would now like to unsubscribe, if someone would be kind enough to tell
> me how to.
>
> Nearly my entire business runs on filePro, other than for POS systems.
> filePro applications that I've developed over many, many years.
>
> I don't need the list, rarely contribute as you all know. When I do, it's
> nearly always met with rude, uncalled for remarks by Fairlight (whatever a
> Fairlight or an m->) is.
>
> He may be a talented computer geek, but he is a prick with little sense of
> how to get along with and be fair to people. Instead chooses to tell
people
> off, an attempt to put them in their place or something.
>
> Don't need it. Life is too short.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Tom Aldridge
>
> P.S. Mark, try not to waste yours and the other's time telling me off one
> last time. It won't be read.
>
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:46:02 -0400, Fairlight wrote:
>
>> Whether or not you had an attribution line, who the hell knows?  I may
>> have been tired, I may have slipped with vi.
>>
>> I'd long since deleted the OP's post, and this was an insertion point
>> back in.  And the ">>>" quoting is more than sufficient for anyone
>> with two neurons to rub together and make a spark.
>>
>> I just checked the list archives; you were quoting not just the OP,
>> but the bloody -digest-.  You didn't even have an attribution line for
>> -anyone- yourself, -and- you top-posted without one, so I'd
>> not-so-gently suggest get off your high horse.  If -you- had bothered
>> with proper quoting and attribution of the digest, you wouldn't have a
>> thing to complain about now, as relates to a common practise of thread
>> re-entry at a later point when one no longer has the original post and
>> someone else's thread is handy.
>>
>> The ">" is -still- enough to clarify that it wasn't you.
>>
>> Stop whining and move on.
>>
>> m->
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