Mailing list administrivia

Richard Kreiss rkreiss at gccconsulting.net
Sun Apr 26 11:56:24 PDT 2015


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Outlook 

See the header below.  If I hit "Reply All" just Bruce's address appears.

Richard Kreiss 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Filepro-list [mailto:filepro-list-
> bounces+rkreiss=verizon.net at lists.celestial.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Easton via
> Filepro-list
> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 10:22 AM
> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Subject: Re: Mailing list administrivia
> 
> On 4/25/15 2:54 PM, Jay Ashworth via Filepro-list wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bill Campbell via Filepro-list"
> >> <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> >> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> >> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:20:10 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Mailing list administrivia On Fri, Apr 24, 2015,
> >> Jean-Pierre A. Radley via Filepro-list wrote:
> >>> OK, no outage, my message came through; but as promised, it shows in
> >>> my MUA's list of the messages in my mailbox as being from "filePro
> >>> Mailing List", not as being from me. When I reply to the message,
> >>> you see above that my MUA then uses "filePro Mailing List", not my
> >>> name, to show who's being quoted.
> >>>
> >>> This should not abide.
> >> I don't like it either, but without munging the From: header, several
> >> large services that use strict DMARC rules which prevent them from
> >> accepting email where the IP of the machine sending the list traffic
> >> isn't listed as a valid IP for the domain of the Sender. Services
> >> using this include Comcast, Yahoo! and others I don't remember
> >> offhand.
> >>
> >> The first attempt to handle this with the Mailman MLM was to guess
> >> which receiving hosts did DMARC testing, but that wasn't reliable so
> >> they modified the behaviour to do it for all list traffic.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, I'm replying to this list message with mutt's 'L'
> >> to send to the list, and the outgoing headers look perfectly normal
> >> to me.
> > This was a standard 'R'eply with Zimbra 6, and not only is the
> > attribution usable, if not perfect, but the "To" isn't the list, as
> > usual.  (Zimbra doesn't do Reply To List)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -- jra
> Gosh - all this time I've been copying the list email into the To address instead
> of using Thunderbird's "Reply List" button.  Thanks, Jay.
> 
> In Thunderbird, this does seem to be behaving as Bill has described.
> Aside from the odd-looking From address, all involved parties are represented
> in the header.
> 
> Bruce of Easton, Duke of Earl
> bruce at stn.com
> 
> 
> 
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