Licensing

[Fairlight]

That's the way it works.  Each window eats a seat.

And you're far from the only person thinking it.  I can think of three
major clients who would upgrade almost immediately if it weren't for the
license manager bullshit - even figuring in the exhorbitant upgrade costs.
The main thing keeping people on 5.0.14 is the licence manager, full stop.

mark->

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 09:54:47AM -0400, Mike Fedkiw thus spoke:
> So if I'm understanding this correctly, it's pretty much the windows that eat up licenses. If I have three separate Windows of filepro open on my computer I'm pretty much using three licenses running Windows server 03 or 08. If that's the way it works now, at least that would be an easier way for me to determine exactly or approximately how many licenses I'd need to purchase. 
> 
> If I'm wrong in what I'm thinking, I freaking give up, yet again. I wonder who else thinks that filepro could be loosing a hell of a lot more money than they're making by implementing this ridiculous licensing crap. It's kept me from updating for years now and still might. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way. 
> 
> Mike 
> 
> On Jun 21, 2014, Fairlight <fairlite at fairlite.com> wrote:
> >In the system case, in 5.7, no extra licenses are used.  Pre-5.7, each
> >uses
> >a license seat.
> >
> >If you want to post to the list, you could hit reply and change the
> >recipient to filepro-list at lists.celestial.com in your mail client.
> >
> >mark->
> >
> >On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:36:29PM -0400, Mike Fedkiw thus spoke:
> >>    Okay, I'm still confused here, what happens when I'm in dclerk and
> >do a
> >>    system command to open another dclerk and then another and
> >another.Â
> >>    I've written some processing where I could possibly be six levels
> >deep
> >>    into those dclerks, does each of those commands eat up another
> >license?
> >>    If that's the case, I could possibly need to buy up to or even
> >more
> >>    than fifty licenses for six computers, that just seems ridiculous.
> >It
> >>    can't really be like that, can it
> >>    The other thing is that I'm confused as how to reply to this so it
> >>    would get posted to the list. I'm thinking that only you are going
> >to
> >>    see this reply.
> >>    Mike
> >> 
> >>    On Jun 20, 2014, Fairlight wrote:
> >> 
> >> You must buy enough seats to cover every active "user".  On a SCO
> >text
> >> console (but not Linux text consoles), all the main consoles count as
> >one
> >> seat.  I -believe- FacetWin had some sort of arrangement that made
> >Facet
> >> akin to the SCO console that way...but on SCO, not Linux, if memory
> >serves.
> >> Other than that, every time you invoke clerk, cabe, report, ddefine,
> >etc.,
> >> you're eating a license.  I don't think runmenu eats any, but could
> >be
> >> wrong.
> >> About the only upside to 5.7.x is that a SYSTEM to a clerk or report
> >no
> >> longer takes another user seat from the license pool.  Something
> >which
> >> should have been done back in 4.5, IMNSHO.  Not for lack of begging,
> >> bitching, moaning, and general complaining from the community for
> >years.
> >> Now they've "fixed" it, and
> >> "nobody" (few) want to buy the new product with
> >> its attendant license manager.
> >> But except in very specific and rare instances, yes, every open
> >instance is
> >> a "user".
> >> mark->
> >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 09:38:05PM -0400, Mike Fedkiw thus spoke:
> >> 
> >>      I know this has probably been gone over multiple times by now, I
> >>      think I've actually seen it being talked about but it just
> >seemed
> >>      confusing to me.
> >>      I'm still so confused as to what id actually have to buy to be
> >able
> >>      to use the most current version of filepro.
> >>      I am pretty much the only one that uses the development but I'll
> >at
> >>      times have 3-4 Windows of it open while working on something. My
> >emp
> >>      loyees also usually have multiple Windows open on each terminal.
> >Now
> >>      if I have to buy a license for every open window, even if it's
> >on
> >>      the same machine, that's just ridiculous.
> >>      Let's see, at any given time there could possibly be 15+
> >filepro's
> >>      running although I've only got 6 computers not counting the
> >server
> >>      which is still on server 2003.
> >>      Any help would be greatly appreciated, Mike
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