Web based application

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On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 03:47:55PM -0500, Jose Lerebours thus spoke:
>    Well, I see we still play hard ball in the list!  ;-)

Nah, you're reading too much into it.  I'm not interested in playing
hardball.

>    I said I like it, not that I would pursuit it.  I think that the time
>    and effort that would take to savage an application written in filePro
>    would be better invested in a more robust technology.  If you are going
>    to use filePro, use it for what it has to offer, not because what you
>    wish it did or what you hope it did.

It depends, really.  Some things would totally be worth pursuing other
technology.  Other things are so large, complex, and organically grown that
replicating them inside a new framework would be well-nigh impossible, or a
fool's errand at best.

>    This particular application, I use PHP + MySQL.  I am not using any

I dislike PHP in general.  It's a security nightmare from hell, for one.
That's ZEND's fault.  As a general architecture, I really disagree with the
design in general.  Unfortunately, both PHP and JS furthered that erosion
of common-sense programming methodologies.  PHP itself goes against
everything object-oriented programming stands for, really.  It works.  It's
quick and dirty.  But like AOL, it's so easy, any idiot can do it - and too
many do.  That's why so many PHP-based web applications are security
nightmares, while ones based in other languages are less likely to turn up
on security watchlists.

That said, if it works for you, go for it.

>    framework thus avoiding having to deal with hacks, vulnerability,
>    deprecated code, bloated code, etc.  Not going any where so not under

Heh...you -think- that you're avoiding it by avoiding a framework.  This
means you're rolling your own.  If you're -very- conversant in CGI
programming pitfalls and security concerns, you may be avoiding
vulnerabilities of your own making.  Or, you may be unaware of something
and subject to more XSS and other information disclosures than you think.

Hell, you're using PHP.  Unless you keep it -constantly- updated, you're
using a platform which has historically been the antithesis of strong
security.

>    Custom UDFs, Classes, CSS, HTML and some good old fashion JS is all it
>    takes ...

No argument there.  For another example, there's nothing you can do with
SOAP that I can't do with technologies over a decade older, with less bloat
and complication.  Lots of technologies got bloated.

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