Filepro-list Digest, Vol 90, Issue 18

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Fri Jul 15 13:20:36 PDT 2011 

Top post

As mentioned previously, RAM can be a serious issue here.

But so can permissions, especially on the folders containing the data files!  
Set incorrectly you can run into slowness issues with multiple users.

What is the drive and path for /appl/fp ans /appl/filepro ?  

Steve Parker
ABC Computing


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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Ryan Powers)
   2. RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Ryan Powers)
   3. RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Ryan Powers)
   4. Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Richard Kreiss)
   5. Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Walter Vaughan)
   6. Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Kenneth Brody)
   7. RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Chris Sellitto)
   8. Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Richard Kreiss)
   9. RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Ryan Powers)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:45:36 -0400
From: "Ryan Powers" <ryanx at indy.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro
To: "'Kenneth Brody'" <kenbrody at spamcop.net>
Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Brody 

> What makes him think that filePro is 16-bit?  It's a full-fledged 32-bit
> Windows console application.

He was convinced it's a dinosaur. I don't know where the 16-bit came from,
short filenames? There was also mention of a "switch". I'm having them
confirm that they meant "router". If they're using a switch, that might
explain it.

> I don't think we still had a DOS version by 5.0.  What is the exact
> version
> number of dclerk?  In particular, does it end in "D3" or "D9"?  ("D3"
> would
> mean it's a 32-bit protected-mode MS-DOS program, whereas "D9" is the
> Windows version.)

5.0.09DN9

So it's Windows native then. 

Thanks for your feedback, and to everyone else for your input. The fact that
so many are not having this issue is enlightening.


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Ryan Powers
Bulldog Software, Inc.
http://www.bulldogsoftware.com









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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:51:27 -0400
From: "Ryan Powers" <ryanx at indy.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro
To: "'Kenneth Brody'" <kenbrody at spamcop.net>
Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
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p.s.

I'll let you know how it turns out. 


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Ryan Powers
Bulldog Software, Inc.
http://www.bulldogsoftware.com








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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:29:58 -0400
From: "Ryan Powers" <ryanx at indy.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro
To: "'Kenneth Brody'" <kenbrody at spamcop.net>
Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
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A little more info:

Client has eliminated AV as an issue. All indexes had been rebuilt. All of
the usual post-migration steps were taken. All of the usual trouble-shooting
was done (25 years experience). A router is being used not a switch.

He has several customers running this multi-user configuration on Windows 7
and SBS with no issues, many with 5 users full-time.

rreport will take 51 seconds to count down 100 records. With 2 users it
takes 10 minutes.

Does anyone use Windows 2008R2 specifically?



---
Ryan Powers
Bulldog Software, Inc.
http://www.bulldogsoftware.com















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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:51:22 -0400
From: Richard Kreiss <rkreiss at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro
To: Ryan Powers <ryanx at indy.rr.com>
Cc: "filepro-list at lists.celestial.com"
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Top post

I have a client running win server 2008 with 25 plus users with no  
performance problems. 

What are the specs for the server?  Windows server OS's are memory hogs and  
any minimum memory suggestion from Ms is inadequate.

Richard
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:29 AM, "Ryan Powers" <ryanx at indy.rr.com> wrote:

> A little more info:
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> Client has eliminated AV as an issue. All indexes had been rebuilt. All of
> the usual post-migration steps were taken. All of the usual  
trouble-shooting
> was done (25 years experience). A router is being used not a switch.
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> He has several customers running this multi-user configuration on Windows  
7
> and SBS with no issues, many with 5 users full-time.
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> rreport will take 51 seconds to count down 100 records. With 2 users it
> takes 10 minutes.
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> Does anyone use Windows 2008R2 specifically?
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:39:25 -0400
From: Walter Vaughan <wvaughan at steelerubber.com>
Subject: Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro
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Richard Kreiss wrote:

>Top post
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>I have a client running win server 2008 with 25 plus users with no  
performance problems. 
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We're not looking at Apples correctly here.
Server 2008 is available in 32bit and 64bit version
Server2008R2 is only available in 64bit version

32bit  binaries may not run at at full speed on a 64bit Windows OS.

Saying server 2008 is like saying "personal computer".


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:52:00 -0400
From: Kenneth Brody <kenbrody at spamcop.net>
Subject: Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro
To: Walter Vaughan <wvaughan at steelerubber.com>
Cc: filePro <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
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On 7/15/2011 11:39 AM, Walter Vaughan wrote:
[...]
> 32bit  binaries may not run at at full speed on a 64bit Windows OS.
[...]

Even if that's true (and I'm not certain it is), that wouldn't explain why 
it slows down to 1/12th the speed when a second user is on:

> rreport will take 51 seconds to count down 100 records. With 2 users it
> takes 10 minutes.

And, unless processing is doing a huge amount of work on every record, two 
records a second is extremely slow to begin with.

Note that I don't have any Win2008 systems.  I am, however, on a 64-bit Win7  

box.

-- 
Kenneth Brody


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:11:21 +0000
From: Chris Sellitto <sellich at guaranteedreturns.com>
Subject: RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro
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TOP POST

Just a curious question.  How did the client "eliminate" AV as an issue?

Chris

> A little more info:
>
> Client has eliminated AV as an issue. All indexes had been rebuilt. All
> of
> the usual post-migration steps were taken. All of the usual trouble-
> shooting
> was done (25 years experience). A router is being used not a switch.
>
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Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:05:49 -0400
From: Richard Kreiss <rkreiss at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro
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Top post:

My client is running 64bit win 2008 server in virtual mode. I am not sure  
what Vm software they are using. 

My office system is 32 bit server 2003 with my newest workstation running  
win 7 64 bit ultimate.  I have no performance problems. 

I am  curious, are the users using terminal server or running FP on desktop  
computers?

Also, is they're connecting using a router/switch, it is possible that the  
switch portion of the device may have a bad port causing this slowness. 

One of my clients had this problem when they used a bad extra switch to add  
more connections in a second floor office. As soon as this bad switch was  
replaced, the system performance returned.   

Richard
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Walter Vaughan <wvaughan at steelerubber.com>  
wrote:

> Richard Kreiss wrote:
> 
>> Top post
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>> I have a client running win server 2008 with 25 plus users with no  
performance problems. 
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> We're not looking at Apples correctly here.
> Server 2008 is available in 32bit and 64bit version
> Server2008R2 is only available in 64bit version
> 
> 32bit  binaries may not run at at full speed on a 64bit Windows OS.
> 
> Saying server 2008 is like saying "personal computer".
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:09:51 -0400
From: "Ryan Powers" <ryanx at indy.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro
To: "'filePro'" <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
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Again, great replies everyone.

I'll send the feedback up through the chain. No idea about how they checked
the AV status, but that will be included, as well as the patches and
possible router issue.


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Ryan Powers
Bulldog Software, Inc.
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