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[Nancy Palmquist]

Craig,

I understand how much I learn from trying a thing.  I always told 
students that you learn more when a thing does not work than when it 
does work the first time.  But everyone does not have the reasoning 
skills to create a test and learn from a test.  We all work with people 
that need a bit of added help.

I understand it is frustrating when people do not give a thing a try on 
their own before asking for help.

I am also annoyed by some questions, but I just do not answer those 
kinds of questions. Our community is small, I hate to make anyone feel 
like it is not safe to post.

I know Ken goes out of his way to answer people on this list.  I 
personally think he should lurk more than he does and let the 
conversation happen between the community members.  Only stepping in 
when he sees it going wrong or he sees a member is really getting no help.

So my post was not to start anything.  I have known most of the people 
on this list for 20 years +.  I just wanted a polite reminder that we 
all need to show a bit of respect and refrain from silliness.

Nancy

On 7/6/2011 7:39 PM, Craig Tooker wrote:
> On 7/6/2011 17:35, Nancy Palmquist wrote:
>> Ken
>>
>> I am a little disappointed in this answer.  If you did not want to
>> supply an answer, why did you post this?
> Easy now; I think Ken has been particularly provoked by the OP refusing
> to answer questions (in other threads) and generally wanting the fish
> handed to him (almost always) instead of learning to fish for himself.
>
> Even in this specific case, the OP admitted he knew he was using the
> list as a crutch before bothering himself with a simple test case code
> (that we both know he *can* code).
>
> We all know that Ken goes above and beyond most of the time (having lots
> more patience than I) with answering questions and giving hints.
>
> Best of all of course are the edits provided to solve all kinds of
> things that I would have done in processing.
>> We (filePro community) know that the documentation - while exciting and
>> riveting to read - is not always on the mark when it comes to answering
>> our need for information.  Often it is vague and incomplete when
>> providing the boundaries and rules we can expect when using a command or
>> function.
> So true.  But most of us would try this out with test code (a trivial
> exercise) that would take less time to code and test then to write the
> email and await the answer.  The point here is that his (Ken's) patience
> has been exhausted with the OP.
>> Also when learning by example, our assumptions as to what to expect in
>> all cases, might be entirely wrong.  Other things may be causing the
>> result and we assume that the command we are testing did it.
>>
>> So asking the list for clarity and then getting such a vague response
>> like this is not helpful.
>>
>> If anyone has the keys to the details of how things should and do work,
>> it should be you.
>>
>> I would answer Richard but I never use the Restart command because I
>> never saw 1) any good reason for it 2) was not entirely sure it would do
>> what I wanted - if I did find a reason.
>>
>> So I was looking forward to a better answer, that I might learn something.
>>
>> Sorry but this just hit me wrong.
>>
>> Nancy
> ... snipped ...
>
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