ePrint (was Re: HP OfficeJet 6500A plus) (Fairlight) (Ken Cole)

[Steve Parker]

   1. Re: ePrint (was Re: HP OfficeJet 6500A plus) (Fairlight)
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 05:30:14 -0500
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> Confusious (Steve Parker) say:
WOW! I've been elevated and promoted to the level of an ancient Chinese
Wiseman! Or perhaps Wisehammer would be more accurate!


I do not have a lot of trust for our Government in such things, but much
less so for foreign Governments. More importantly, my point is more that
although the our Government no doubt can, will and does peruse data at will,
at least the data is "secure" and "on-line" for them to do so. We are not
likely in danger of a buried vault somewhere outside of Denver being over
run by unhappy sheepherders from Oregon, or worse, gaining control over the
nukes and wiping it out.

In a recent incident of less than two years ago, this was almost a reality
"over there" where the "dissidents" were only a few miles away from the
central control center for JUST that! In which case, if successful, my
client's data would go off-line, perhaps forever!

There is little question in my mind that since things "went off the grid"
after that fateful day, that the "bunker" technology has continued to grow
at a rapid pace. I heard about a technology in about 1993, more or less,
that did get my attention. Who knew that such a thing as a "Crystal Drives"
existed, and that they were then being used for on-board storage in Cruise
Missiles guidance systems. We're not likely to hear much about the newer
version of such technology today, but not much would surprise me. 

And yet the Government cannot build a database that can efficiently check
for Felony convictions at a gun show, in order to avoid selling such toys to
folks who are not allowed by law to purchase them. It troubles me greatly
that the FBI has for so many years managed to waste hundreds of millions of
dollars on this project and, to the best of my knowledge, a reliable and
fast "background check" still does not exist.

So easier to shut down all such events, right?

Hasn't anyone ever spoken to these folks about filePro? Amazes me the amount
of $$ wasted on IT Projects and database designs that are writing in
languages that do not communicate well with others, and designed by people
in management who have no clear idea of how to design a database, let alone
use one, or even much less mine the data that is stored.

Steve Parker
ABC Computing Services

And I raise the ante another $0.01, back to Mark!


>> 
>> I don't even yet trust "cloud" computing or third-party support remote
>> monitoring and support, so how backwards am I.

> s/backwards/smart/

>> Much of the remote monitoring we can and do accomplish ourselves. Then
there
>> are local providers if the site is too much to want to manage oneself,
and
>> would like to know that a data center open and manned 7 x 24 is keeping
an
>> eye on things and will let you know id something starts to go sideways,
but
>> I'm sorry, I have a problem with the NOC being located somewhere in the
>> outback of Pakistan.

> I really hate to disillusion you, but the major Federal agencies allegedly
> have direct taps at most (if not all) of the domestic carrier lines at the
> core level, from what I've been told--direct access built into the
systems.
> Data is possibly -safer- overseas than stateside.  Unless you're using
> end-to-end encryption -and- physically control the server location, it's
> not to be considered secured, period.  Even that only gets you partially
> secured.  To be fully secured, you'd need to encrypt the filesystems -and-
> physically isolate the system to the degree that the ultra top-secret
> systems supposedly are--physical isolation, special conduits for cables
> in/out that are either pressurised or vacuum sealed, with sensors to
detect
> any physical tampering...the works.

> See, you can -probably- trust a carrier's carrier like Level 3--they're
> state of the art, and left to their own devices they're not going to
> risk good business by being stupid.  Problem is, you can't trust the
> government whose country they're hosting their domestic (to us) data
> centers in--namely ours since the Patriot Act, Echelon, and a host (pardon
> the pun) of other things went into play.

> Doesn't matter if you're doing nothing illegal--it's the principle.  That,
> and the fact that the alphabet soup agencies love to bandy about the
> word "terrorism" as a magic wand and skeleton key to get themselves into
> anything they feel they want into.

> And while I may sound paranoid, I don't think I actually am.  In this day
> and age, it's actually just realistic assessment, IMHO.

>> How different is "cloud" computing? No one has been able to convince me
>> otherwise. When asked where my or my customer's data resides, there is
>> always a pregnant pause on the other end of the phone!

> I don't trust the cloud at all.  I don't like it for security reasons, and
> it's logistically unwieldly when you start dealing with even moderately
> large amounts of data.  Anything over 50-100GB, it's next to useless 
> unless
> you're on 100mbit+.

>> So I concur. I don't care to have clear text emails sent to HP servers
>> (sitting no doubt in India or Pakistan) deciphering the data and sending
it
>> of to who-knows-where as it is sent back to your customer's printer. Too
>> many security holes and too many thing to go wrong.

> Well, HP is another story entirely.  That's not a cloud...that's just
> someone that might peek to do what Google and Facebook been accused of
many
> times--collecting data to sell to other companies.  Big difference between
> a consumer-oriented corporation, and a top-level carrier.

>> Just my two cents!

> Perfectly valid $0.02, but I see your $0.02 and raise you $0.02.


Nice Raise!! LOL!!


> mark->>
-- 
Audio panton, cogito singularis.


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