Filepro-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 15
Brian K. White
brian at aljex.com
Thu Dec 15 23:41:48 PST 2011
Tom, I can't find what you added below.
Can you trim quotes a little if you're going to quote from a huge digest
mail please?
--
bkw
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>> 1. Re: individual config file (Jean-Pierre A. Radley)
>> 2. Re: individual config file (Kenneth Brody)
>> 3. Re: individual config file (Brian K. White)
>> 4. Re: individual config file (Jean-Pierre A. Radley)
>> 5. Re: individual config file (Brian K. White)
>> 6. Re: individual config file
>> (Robert T. Repko (R Squared Consultants))
>> 7. Re: individual config file (Bob Rasmussen)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:47:17 -0500
>> From: "Jean-Pierre A. Radley"<appl at jpr.com>
>> Subject: Re: individual config file
>> To: FilePro Mailing List<filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>> Message-ID:<20111215224717.GA21167 at jpradley.jpr.com>
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>> Bob Rasmussen propounded (on Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:26:35AM -0800):
>> | IIRC, it is possible with options in the 'ps' command to see what
>> | environment variables are in place in another running process. Could this
>> | be used to see what the final environment was in the malfunctioning login?
>>
>> Never heard of such an option, and it certainly would be non-Unixy
>> for user joe to be able to unveil the environment used by tom or
>> alice. I don't think there's even a way for root to do so.
>>
>> --
>> JP
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 18:32:10 -0500
>> From: Kenneth Brody<kenbrody at spamcop.net>
>> Subject: Re: individual config file
>> To: FilePro Mailing List<filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>> Message-ID:<4EEA837A.9070105 at spamcop.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> On 12/15/2011 5:47 PM, Jean-Pierre A. Radley wrote:
>>> Bob Rasmussen propounded (on Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:26:35AM -0800):
>>> | IIRC, it is possible with options in the 'ps' command to see what
>>> | environment variables are in place in another running process. Could this
>>> | be used to see what the final environment was in the malfunctioning login?
>>>
>>> Never heard of such an option, and it certainly would be non-Unixy
>>> for user joe to be able to unveil the environment used by tom or
>>> alice. I don't think there's even a way for root to do so.
>>
>> On systems with a /proc pseudo-filesystem, root can do so.
>>
>> The OSR5 man page for "ps" doesn't show any such option:
>>
>> http://osr507doc.sco.com/en/man/html.C/ps.C.html
>>
>> --
>> Kenneth Brody
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:48:48 -0500
>> From: "Brian K. White"<brian at aljex.com>
>> Subject: Re: individual config file
>> To: FilePro Mailing List<filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>> Message-ID:<4EEA9570.8060403 at aljex.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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>> On 12/15/2011 5:47 PM, Jean-Pierre A. Radley wrote:
>>> Bob Rasmussen propounded (on Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:26:35AM -0800):
>>> | IIRC, it is possible with options in the 'ps' command to see what
>>> | environment variables are in place in another running process. Could this
>>> | be used to see what the final environment was in the malfunctioning login?
>>>
>>> Never heard of such an option, and it certainly would be non-Unixy
>>> for user joe to be able to unveil the environment used by tom or
>>> alice. I don't think there's even a way for root to do so.
>>>
>>
>> gnu ps can show the environment at least on linux
>> "ps e" or "ps auxwwwe" etc
>>
>> Also as Ken mentioned the /proc tree includes the env for each process.
>>
>> sco ps can not
>> and sco does not have /proc
>>
>> But I believe it is still possible for a process to see another
>> processes environment and for a root owned process to see any processes
>> environment. I don't have anything handy to see if gnutools or gwxlibs
>> includes /usr/gnu/bin/ps or if it can show environment.
>>
>> I never did understand why it was necessary or reasonable for a
>> processes environment to be public.
>>
>> --
>> bkw
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:29:25 -0500
>> From: "Jean-Pierre A. Radley"<appl at jpr.com>
>> Subject: Re: individual config file
>> To: FilePro Mailing List<filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>> Message-ID:<20111216012925.GB21167 at jpradley.jpr.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> | and sco does not have /proc
>>
>> Uh, depends what you mean by "sco".
>> UnixWare and OSR 6 both have /proc.
>>
>> --
>> JP
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:50:58 -0500
>> From: "Brian K. White"<brian at aljex.com>
>> Subject: Re: individual config file
>> To: FilePro Mailing List<filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
>> Message-ID:<4EEAA402.5040003 at aljex.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> On 12/15/2011 8:29 PM, Jean-Pierre A. Radley wrote:
>>> | and sco does not have /proc
>>>
>>> Uh, depends what you mean by "sco".
>>> UnixWare and OSR 6 both have /proc.
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, you're right I should have said OSR5 does not have /proc
>>
>> --
>> bkw
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:44:30 -0500
>> From: "Robert T. Repko (R Squared Consultants)"<rtr at rsquared.com>
>> Subject: Re: individual config file
>> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
>> Message-ID:<auto-000008820676 at rsquared.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>
>> Replies in-line
>>
>> Believe it or not at 12/15/2011 02:17 PM, Brian K. White said:
>>> On 12/15/2011 11:12 AM, Craig Tooker wrote:
>>>> On 12/15/2011 10:59, Robert T. Repko (R Squared Consultants) wrote:
>>>>> Believe it or not at 12/15/2011 10:47 AM, Kenneth Brody said:
>>>>>> On 12/15/2011 10:00 AM, Robert T. Repko (R Squared Consultants) wrote:
>>>>>>> Running filePro 5.6 on SCO Unix 5.0.7 Korn shell.
>>>>>>> I need to setup individual config files for certain users. I set the
>>>>>>> environment variable PFCONFIG in the users .profile but when I log in
>>>>>>> as the user the environment variable doesn't appear and the personal
>>>>>>> config file doesn't show. If I set the variable from the command
>>>>>>> prompt it appears and the personal config file shows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Entry in .profile
>>>>>>> PFCONFIG=/u/appl/fp/lib/config.sam
>>>>>>> export PFCONFIG
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What am I missing?
>>>>>> What shell are they using? As I recall, some shells use a file
>>>>>> other than "~/.profile". For example, I believe the C shell
>>> uses "~/.cshrc".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Kenneth Brody
>>>>> korn shell
>>>>> I made the same entries in .kshrc but it didn't work.
>>>>> PFCONFIG=/u/appl/fp/lib/config.sam;export PFCONFIG
>>>> You've checked the /etc/passwd file to make sure they are using /bin/ksh
>>>> or on your system /bin/sh is a link to /bin/ksh ? Most Linux
>>>> distributions default /bin/sh as a link to /bin/bash.
>>>>
>>>> Are the lines in this email a cut and paste from the lines in the config
>>>> file?
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>
>>> On SCO OSR5 /bin/sh and /bin/ksh will both read ~/.profile and neither
>>> is a link to bash or anything else. /bin/sh is an old bourne shell,
>>> stock /bin/ksh is ksh88. ksh93 is available in an add-on but it does not
>>> overwrite /bin/ksh. (ksh93 will read ~/.profile too)
>>> Bash is available in an add-on too, but unlike in most linux distros,
>>> the bash install does not include fake sh or ksh links.
>>>
>>> On 5.0.6 and 5.0.7 in particular, ~ is in /u by default, which is
>>> different from where it was in older versions, /usr,
>>> and may be changed in /etc/default/accounts to something more sensible
>>> like /home.
>>> Lots of opportunities for things to not be where you expect them and few
>>> assumptions are safe.
>>>
>>> .kshrc is the wrong place for this, but never the less it should have
>>> worked, so it's interesting that it didn't. That hints at wrong
>>> directory or wrong ownerships or permissions.
>>
>> I didn't expect it to work but I only put the lines in the .kshrc
>> shell when placing them in .profile didn't work. Sometimes you try
>> everything you can think of even, if you know it won't work.
>>
>>
>>> Please show the following:
>>>
>>> grep "^username:" /etc/passwd
>>
>> rtr:rrQ3xq0aPHulg,..RR:201:50::/u/users/rtr:/bin/ksh
>>
>>
>>> ls -l /u/username
>>
>> / # ls -l /u/users/rtr
>> -rw------- 1 rtr group 1244 Dec 15 11:00 .kshrc
>> -rw------- 1 rtr sys 181 Nov 21 2001 .netrc
>> -rw------- 1 rtr group 1762 Dec 15 09:25 .profile
>> -rw------- 1 rtr group 1684 Aug 24 2004 .sh_history
>> drwx------ 2 rtr group 512 Dec 25 2001 Mail
>> drwxr-x--- 3 rtr sys 512 Apr 24 2005 aix
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 rtr sys 1100 Dec 15 09:17 config
>>
>> I only copy/paste the relevant files.
>>
>>
>>> ls -lR /u/username
>>
>> / # ls -lR /u/users/rtr
>> -rw------- 1 rtr group 1244 Dec 15 11:00 .kshrc
>> -rw------- 1 rtr sys 181 Nov 21 2001 .netrc
>> -rw------- 1 rtr group 1762 Dec 15 09:25 .profile
>> -rw------- 1 rtr group 1684 Aug 24 2004 .sh_history
>> drwx------ 2 rtr group 512 Dec 25 2001 Mail
>> drwxr-x--- 3 rtr sys 512 Apr 24 2005 aix
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 rtr sys 1100 Dec 15 09:17 config
>>
>> I did not include the directory contents since they are not
>> relevant. If you absolutely want the directory listings I will
>> include them in a separate posting.
>>
>>
>>> cat /u/username/.profile
>>
>> /u/users/rtr # cat .profile
>> #!/bin/ksh
>> # DoubleVision Pro's digiboard call during login...
>> [ -x /usr/lib/dv/digi_trigger ]&& /usr/lib/dv/digi_trigger
>> # @(#) profile 85.1 99/12/08
>> #
>> # Copyright (C) 1990-1999 The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
>> # All Rights Reserved.
>> # The information in this file is provided for the exclusive use of
>> # the licensees of The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Such users have the
>> # right to use, modify, and incorporate this code into other products
>> # for purposes authorized by the license agreement provided they include
>> # this notice and the associated copyright notice with any such product.
>> # The information in this file is provided "AS IS" without warranty.
>> #
>> # .profile -- Commands executed by a login Korn shell
>> #
>>
>> [ -d /usr/local/bin -a -x /usr/local/bin ]&& PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin
>> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:. # set command search path
>> export PATH
>>
>> if [ -z "$LOGNAME" ]; then
>> LOGNAME=`logname` # name of user who logged in
>> export LOGNAME
>> fi
>>
>> MAIL=/usr/spool/mail/$LOGNAME # mailbox location
>> export MAIL
>>
>> if [ -z "$PWD" ]; then
>> PWD=$HOME # assumes initial cwd is HOME
>> export PWD
>> fi
>>
>> if [ -f $HOME/.kshrc -a -r $HOME/.kshrc ]; then
>> ENV=$HOME/.kshrc # set ENV if there is an rc file
>> export ENV
>> fi
>>
>> # use default system file creation mask (umask)
>>
>> eval `tset -m scoansi:${TERM:-scoansi} -m :\?${TERM:-scoansi} -r -s -Q`
>> [ -x /bin/termtype ]&& /bin/termtype
>>
>> # If job control is enabled, set the suspend character to ^Z (control-z):
>> case $- in
>> *m*) stty susp '^z'
>> ;;
>> esac
>>
>> set -o ignoreeof # don't let control-d logout
>>
>> case $LOGNAME in # include command number in prompt
>> root) PS1="!# " ;;
>> *) PS1="!$ " ;;
>> esac
>> PFCONFIG=/u/appl/fp/lib/config.sam
>> export PS1
>> export PFCONFIG
>> mesg -y
>> /usr/bin/prwarn # issue a warning if password due to expire
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> bkw
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>> ***************************
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>> * R Squared Consultants *
>> * 4 Juniper Ave. *
>> * Easton, PA 18045 *
>> * (610) 360-1117 (mobile) *
>> * (610) 253-0725 (fax) *
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:40:29 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Bob Rasmussen<ras at anzio.com>
>> Subject: Re: individual config file
>> To: "Robert T. Repko (R Squared Consultants)"<rtr at rsquared.com>
>> Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
>> Message-ID:<Pine.LNX.4.64ras.1112151939220.17567 at nimbus.anzio.com>
>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>> You may be missing a quick test: have your script display the value of the
>> environment variable, and do a read of operator input, at the last
>> possible moment. This will tell you whether your environment-setting step
>> is working.
>>
>> On Thu, 15 Dec 2011, Robert T. Repko (R Squared Consultants) wrote:
>>
>>> Replies in-line
>>>
>>> Believe it or not at 12/15/2011 02:17 PM, Brian K. White said:
>>>> On 12/15/2011 11:12 AM, Craig Tooker wrote:
>>>>> On 12/15/2011 10:59, Robert T. Repko (R Squared Consultants) wrote:
>>>>>> Believe it or not at 12/15/2011 10:47 AM, Kenneth Brody said:
>>>>>>> On 12/15/2011 10:00 AM, Robert T. Repko (R Squared Consultants) wrote:
>>>>>>>> Running filePro 5.6 on SCO Unix 5.0.7 Korn shell.
>>>>>>>> I need to setup individual config files for certain users. I set the
>>>>>>>> environment variable PFCONFIG in the users .profile but when I log in
>>>>>>>> as the user the environment variable doesn't appear and the personal
>>>>>>>> config file doesn't show. If I set the variable from the command
>>>>>>>> prompt it appears and the personal config file shows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Entry in .profile
>>>>>>>> PFCONFIG=/u/appl/fp/lib/config.sam
>>>>>>>> export PFCONFIG
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What am I missing?
>>>>>>> What shell are they using? As I recall, some shells use a file
>>>>>>> other than "~/.profile". For example, I believe the C shell
>>>> uses "~/.cshrc".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Kenneth Brody
>>>>>> korn shell
>>>>>> I made the same entries in .kshrc but it didn't work.
>>>>>> PFCONFIG=/u/appl/fp/lib/config.sam;export PFCONFIG
>>>>> You've checked the /etc/passwd file to make sure they are using /bin/ksh
>>>>> or on your system /bin/sh is a link to /bin/ksh ? Most Linux
>>>>> distributions default /bin/sh as a link to /bin/bash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are the lines in this email a cut and paste from the lines in the config
>>>>> file?
>>>>>
>>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>> On SCO OSR5 /bin/sh and /bin/ksh will both read ~/.profile and neither
>>>> is a link to bash or anything else. /bin/sh is an old bourne shell,
>>>> stock /bin/ksh is ksh88. ksh93 is available in an add-on but it does not
>>>> overwrite /bin/ksh. (ksh93 will read ~/.profile too)
>>>> Bash is available in an add-on too, but unlike in most linux distros,
>>>> the bash install does not include fake sh or ksh links.
>>>>
>>>> On 5.0.6 and 5.0.7 in particular, ~ is in /u by default, which is
>>>> different from where it was in older versions, /usr,
>>>> and may be changed in /etc/default/accounts to something more sensible
>>>> like /home.
>>>> Lots of opportunities for things to not be where you expect them and few
>>>> assumptions are safe.
>>>>
>>>> .kshrc is the wrong place for this, but never the less it should have
>>>> worked, so it's interesting that it didn't. That hints at wrong
>>>> directory or wrong ownerships or permissions.
>>>
>>> I didn't expect it to work but I only put the lines in the .kshrc
>>> shell when placing them in .profile didn't work. Sometimes you try
>>> everything you can think of even, if you know it won't work.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Please show the following:
>>>>
>>>> grep "^username:" /etc/passwd
>>>
>>> rtr:rrQ3xq0aPHulg,..RR:201:50::/u/users/rtr:/bin/ksh
>>>
>>>
>>>> ls -l /u/username
>>>
>>> / # ls -l /u/users/rtr
>>> -rw------- 1 rtr group 1244 Dec 15 11:00 .kshrc
>>> -rw------- 1 rtr sys 181 Nov 21 2001 .netrc
>>> -rw------- 1 rtr group 1762 Dec 15 09:25 .profile
>>> -rw------- 1 rtr group 1684 Aug 24 2004 .sh_history
>>> drwx------ 2 rtr group 512 Dec 25 2001 Mail
>>> drwxr-x--- 3 rtr sys 512 Apr 24 2005 aix
>>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 rtr sys 1100 Dec 15 09:17 config
>>>
>>> I only copy/paste the relevant files.
>>>
>>>
>>>> ls -lR /u/username
>>>
>>> / # ls -lR /u/users/rtr
>>> -rw------- 1 rtr group 1244 Dec 15 11:00 .kshrc
>>> -rw------- 1 rtr sys 181 Nov 21 2001 .netrc
>>> -rw------- 1 rtr group 1762 Dec 15 09:25 .profile
>>> -rw------- 1 rtr group 1684 Aug 24 2004 .sh_history
>>> drwx------ 2 rtr group 512 Dec 25 2001 Mail
>>> drwxr-x--- 3 rtr sys 512 Apr 24 2005 aix
>>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 rtr sys 1100 Dec 15 09:17 config
>>>
>>> I did not include the directory contents since they are not
>>> relevant. If you absolutely want the directory listings I will
>>> include them in a separate posting.
>>>
>>>
>>>> cat /u/username/.profile
>>>
>>> /u/users/rtr # cat .profile
>>> #!/bin/ksh
>>> # DoubleVision Pro's digiboard call during login...
>>> [ -x /usr/lib/dv/digi_trigger ]&& /usr/lib/dv/digi_trigger
>>> # @(#) profile 85.1 99/12/08
>>> #
>>> # Copyright (C) 1990-1999 The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
>>> # All Rights Reserved.
>>> # The information in this file is provided for the exclusive use of
>>> # the licensees of The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Such users have the
>>> # right to use, modify, and incorporate this code into other products
>>> # for purposes authorized by the license agreement provided they include
>>> # this notice and the associated copyright notice with any such product.
>>> # The information in this file is provided "AS IS" without warranty.
>>> #
>>> # .profile -- Commands executed by a login Korn shell
>>> #
>>>
>>> [ -d /usr/local/bin -a -x /usr/local/bin ]&& PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin
>>> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:. # set command search path
>>> export PATH
>>>
>>> if [ -z "$LOGNAME" ]; then
>>> LOGNAME=`logname` # name of user who logged in
>>> export LOGNAME
>>> fi
>>>
>>> MAIL=/usr/spool/mail/$LOGNAME # mailbox location
>>> export MAIL
>>>
>>> if [ -z "$PWD" ]; then
>>> PWD=$HOME # assumes initial cwd is HOME
>>> export PWD
>>> fi
>>>
>>> if [ -f $HOME/.kshrc -a -r $HOME/.kshrc ]; then
>>> ENV=$HOME/.kshrc # set ENV if there is an rc file
>>> export ENV
>>> fi
>>>
>>> # use default system file creation mask (umask)
>>>
>>> eval `tset -m scoansi:${TERM:-scoansi} -m :\?${TERM:-scoansi} -r -s -Q`
>>> [ -x /bin/termtype ]&& /bin/termtype
>>>
>>> # If job control is enabled, set the suspend character to ^Z (control-z):
>>> case $- in
>>> *m*) stty susp '^z'
>>> ;;
>>> esac
>>>
>>> set -o ignoreeof # don't let control-d logout
>>>
>>> case $LOGNAME in # include command number in prompt
>>> root) PS1="!# " ;;
>>> *) PS1="!$ " ;;
>>> esac
>>> PFCONFIG=/u/appl/fp/lib/config.sam
>>> export PS1
>>> export PFCONFIG
>>> mesg -y
>>> /usr/bin/prwarn # issue a warning if password due to expire
>>>
>>>
>>>> --
>>>> bkw
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>>>
>>> ***************************
>>> * Robert T. Repko *
>>> * R Squared Consultants *
>>> * 4 Juniper Ave. *
>>> * Easton, PA 18045 *
>>> * (610) 360-1117 (mobile) *
>>> * (610) 253-0725 (fax) *
>>> ***************************
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc.
>>
>> personal e-mail: ras at anzio.com
>> company e-mail: rsi at anzio.com
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>> fax: (US) 503-624-0760
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>>
>>
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