OT: (was Re: Crap mail lacking a Subject Header)

[Bruce Easton]

  OK now look you two! :):) (being Mark & John).  If you're intent on 
introducing political discussion here, then at least start off by 
following your own guidelines and change the darn subject so that 
someone can actually ignore it.  Sorry, this just really hit my funny 
bone. :):)

Bruce

On 9/26/10 9:48 PM, John Esak wrote:
> Yes....
>
> (hey this might be pretty easy.. .:-)
>
> John
>
> I have read through the Quran twice now. I do not find it to be uplifting
> or, any more than a way to sell... It specifically says "Kill the infidel
> wherever you find him."  Um, does this sound like a loving God to you?  It
> is a religion for thugs.  And if I hear that the religion has been co-opted
> by just a few readicals  one more time... I'm going to scream.  Where the
> hell is the voice(s) of the 1.2 billion normal, loving muslims denouncing
> these savage acts by the tiny fraction of the whole?  Have you ever heard
> it?  Even once?  No. They silently agree witht the acts of violence
> committed by their fiery brothers and sisters... And hope it does exactly
> what they want, spread Islam throughout the whole world.  Am I an Islama
> phobe?  You BET I am.  They have slowly spread this scurge around the world
> toward us over the past 1300 years or so.  Look what they did to Spain...
> And France has let in so many muslims they do not have any idea what to do
> now.  Algiers is a wasteland. End of story.  Britain is *almost* as bad off.
> This is the most serious problem threatening civilization today... Not faked
> up global warming.  Ahcminutjob at the head with nuclear weaponized
> missles... Not to mention the free fissionable material he can just had out
> to other nutjobs.  I remember when the news was that they were 10 years away
> from a nuclear bomb...now we hear they are one year away.  A year from now
> we will hear that a bomb was exploded over Tel Aviv and then what will we do
> as we watch Obama say how despicable an act it was.  Meanwhile, the
> destruction of the culture will be assured.  Does anyone else read this all
> differently?  I would like to know.
>
> John
>
> Rmember, we have to cut this off after midnight... Until next Sunday.
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.com
>> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.co
>> m] On Behalf Of Fairlight
>> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:13 PM
>> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
>> Subject: Re: Crap mail lacking a Subject Header
>>
>> I second the OT topic motion...like OT: Week In Revue or
>> something...  I
>> like the idea.
>>
>> So, just to comment on your points, briefly, the banning of homemade
>> foodstuffs is ridiculous ranging to absurd, Obama is just
>> lame for leaving
>> the UN early because his self-important arse was done
>> speaking, the rest
>> of the UN delegation were a bunch of wimps for walking out rather than
>> slamming Armed-n-jihad down a few notches in a direct
>> exchange, and Lohan
>> is just plain sad--a demonstration of a lovely set of twin
>> justice systems
>> we have there...one for the rich, one for the poor.
>>
>> My personal favourite is the whole Koran burning thing, which
>> I'm almost
>> positive was a publicity stunt, with the on/off/on/off
>> without specific
>> reasons bit.  But it's the hypocrisy of the uproar on all sides.  I
>> mean, first of all, you've got people saying that Islam is a religion
>> of peace, they've been misrepresented by a handful of extremists, etc.
>> Maybe.  I'll give it a maybe, on the grounds that we
>> "Christians" don't
>> exactly control our funamentalists very well either...and
>> there was the
>> whole Crusades thing, and the Inquisition...  So maybe.  Of
>> course, you
>> haven't seen recent video footage of whole Christian-oriented cities
>> in uproars, insanely firing fully automatic submachine guns into the
>> air as a riot against...well, pick something, they do it over the drop
>> of a hat.  But even assuming that the lenient view is right, let's
>> just look at the burning issue.  Is the reverand in question wise,
>> or even necessarily well-balanced and well-reasoned, not to mention
>> well-intentioned.  Doubtful, IMNSHO.  But, in -this- country,
>> until they
>> pass Patriot Act 2 and take away this right as well, he
>> technically had the
>> right to burn the book, as did any purported followers.  So
>> suddenly we had
>> half the muslim world in a rage, -threatening- our citizens,
>> our interests,
>> over a symbolic act.  Yet...yet...they won't even -allow-
>> Bibles in some of
>> their countries, they burn our flag and our holy book on a
>> regular basis,
>> and then they want us to cave when -their- sensibilities are offended?
>> Sorry, but screw that noise.  I'm no ultra-patriot...this
>> country is not
>> the one my grandfather defended in WW2...it's not even the
>> one I grew up
>> in, to be honest.  But I recognise that the flag and the
>> Bible are symbols
>> of two groups of which I'm a part, even if a lax/default
>> part.  But that's
>> -all- they are...symbols.  A flag or Bible gets burned, no
>> biggie, IMHO,
>> you can make more.  You kill someone, that's a smidge more permanent.
>> But there they are, the supposed members of the religion of peace,
>> threatening to go on yet another rampage, because their
>> sensibilities have
>> been offended.  No, strike that...because someone -MAY- threaten their
>> sensibilities--the guy didn't even HOLD the event, and there
>> were threats
>> and riots (people actually -died- over this!) at the mere
>> thought of it.
>> And they wonder why we fear them, and the (seeming)
>> Islamicazation of not
>> only our contry, but a good number of other usually-sensible
>> countries like
>> Britain.  I'll tellya, I'm no fan of France, and I always
>> laugh at a good
>> French-coward joke (ie., how many Frenchmen does it take to
>> defend Paris?
>> nobody knows, it's never happened...).  But France passing
>> the banning of
>> Islamic oppressive garments showed more balls than we've
>> demonstrated over
>> the course of the last seven years of full-on war in two
>> countries.  We're
>> fighting two countries but fear offending the
>> majority--France actually
>> took on the entire establishment and put their foot down.
>> That is -the-
>> first time I can remember ever respecting France--and usually
>> I'm critical
>> of their elitism (like when they banned the word email for
>> cultural purity
>> reasons).
>>
>> Anyway...that guy had every right to hold the burning, and then Obama
>> weighing in on the opposing side...  *sigh*  Don't start me.
>> The man keeps
>> weighing in on a bunch of things he shouldn't be involved in,
>> from this,
>> all the way back to the professor getting arrested at his
>> home.  When he
>> does something actually useful, his opinion might start to matter.
>>
>> Also loving the way the tax cut situation was shelved until -after-
>> elections.  You know, cos it might actually affect votes.  Bunch of
>> cowards, we have in office.
>>
>> mark->
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