Filepro-list Digest, Vol 81, Issue 54
John Esak
john at valar.com
Wed Oct 27 18:16:18 PDT 2010
This is some good stuff... I like it...
But, incidentally, even if everyone on this list said Qye, to your qeustion,
you'd only get a hundred or maybe two... These are mostly just developers
who support or help others with filePro programs. I'm thinking there are
still thousands of people using filePro out there in every state of the
Union and in some other countries as well. Not many know (*or would care)
about this list.
John
> -----Original Message-----
> From: filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.com
> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.co
> m] On Behalf Of Dennis DIller
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:24 PM
> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> Subject: Re: Filepro-list Digest, Vol 81, Issue 54
>
> I use the @WUKnnn for F3, F4, F8 and F9
> I uses @WUK* If: @key eq "INSL"
> Then: This will call up a telmail
> program inside
> filepro all
> customer/vendors phone, fax
> email then use
> will have
> option to fax, text, email
> that contacts or
> contacts he or she chooses.
>
> If: @key eq "DELL"
> Then: Will delete a line in a memo field
>
> If: @key eq "DRPT"
> Then: This will pop up a menu anywhere
> inside of
> filepro
>
> If: @key eq "GRAF"
> Then: When a user clicks in a field
> will their mouse
> will run a
> routine to put the user in
> that field they
> click on.
>
> Works great for our applications in filepro
> Would also like to see @FKEYnn function as well
> I don't know how many people use this feature in filepro but
> can anyone
> tell me how many people do use filepro ? "Say I"
>
>
>
>
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> > 1. The @when user key function/feature.... (John Esak)
> > 2. Re: The @when user key function/feature.... (Brian K. White)
> > 3. Re: The @when user key function/feature.... (Kenneth Brody)
> > 4. Re: The @when user key function/feature.... (Craig Tooker)
> > 5. RE: The @when user key function/feature.... (Richard Kreiss)
> > 6. RE: The @when user key function/feature.... (Richard Kreiss)
> > 7. Re: The @when user key function/feature.... (Kenneth Brody)
> > 8. RE: The @when user key function/feature.... (Richard Kreiss)
> >
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:15:21 -0400
> > From: "John Esak" <john at valar.com>
> > Subject: The @when user key function/feature....
> > To: <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> > Message-ID: <201010271815.o9RIFYC3084410 at admin114.securesites.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >
> > @wukNNN - F3, F4, F8, F9
> >
> > So how many people use this great function?
> >
> > I think it is often overlooked, and I know I use it a lot
> in all my stuff.
> >
> > My feeling is it allows a whole extra level of processing,
> i.e., a whole
> > different place to "be' when you're inside a filePro
> program. It has some
> > trickyness to it when you first use it, but it is so
> worthwhile. Does
> > anyone have any questions about it or any good suggestions
> regarding it?
> >
> >
> > 4.1 @WUKnnn When user keys F3 , F4 , F8 or F9
> is pressed
> > in field "nnn". When the key is
> pressed, the special
> > key label can be tested by using system
> maintained
> > field @sk. The following key labels apply.
> >
> > F3 INSL
> > F4 DELL
> > F8 DPRT
> > F9 GRAF
> >
> >
> >
> > This is the HELP for the feature... I don't think many
> would use the
> > feature
> > if this is all they ever saw about it. Any comments?
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > P.s. - we have had a nice long spread of messages this past
> month or so
> > about filePro-related stuff... And then today, finally,
> there was nothing
> > but 9 messages I had to delete without-reading because none
> of which were
> > about filePro, but rather about some pretty unrelated open
> source thing or
> > whatever. Yes, usually, topics start out loosley related
> to FP, but soon,
> > we end up seeing the same old names and the same old topics
> that have
> > nothing whatever to do with what we want to be talking
> about here. I'm
> > one
> > who sees no problem with OT: subjects, but that little
> mechanism is fast
> > forgotten and we end up with the filePro people going away for long
> > periods
> > of time and the forum not being used for what we all want
> it used for...
> > And
> > eventually it not being used at all for long periods. So, when this
> > happens, I'm going to take it upon myself to throw out some
> stuff that
> > might
> > spark filePro talk.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:47:19 -0400
> > From: "Brian K. White" <brian at aljex.com>
> > Subject: Re: The @when user key function/feature....
> > To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> > Message-ID: <4CC873B7.5000600 at aljex.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > On 10/27/2010 2:15 PM, John Esak wrote:
> >
> >> P.s. - we have had a nice long spread of messages this
> past month or so
> >> about filePro-related stuff... And then today, finally,
> there was nothing
> >> but 9 messages I had to delete without-reading because
> none of which were
> >> about filePro, but rather about some pretty unrelated open
> source thing
> >> or
> >> whatever.
> >
> > Wait, you can talk for ages about a terminal emulator and
> scanning for
> > use with filepro but I can't?
> >
> > Screw You, Jerk.
> >
> > --
> > bkw
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:51:37 -0400
> > From: Kenneth Brody <kenbrody at spamcop.net>
> > Subject: Re: The @when user key function/feature....
> > To: john at valar.com
> > Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> > Message-ID: <4CC874B9.9070105 at spamcop.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > On 10/27/2010 2:15 PM, John Esak wrote:
> >>
> >> @wukNNN - F3, F4, F8, F9
> >>
> >> So how many people use this great function?
> >>
> >> I think it is often overlooked, and I know I use it a lot
> in all my
> >> stuff.
> >>
> >> My feeling is it allows a whole extra level of processing,
> i.e., a whole
> >> different place to "be' when you're inside a filePro
> program. It has
> >> some
> >> trickyness to it when you first use it, but it is so
> worthwhile. Does
> >> anyone have any questions about it or any good suggestions
> regarding it?
> > [...]
> >
> > I've seen people use it for F3/F4 insert/delete lines on things like
> > invoices or other multi-line sets of data.
> >
> > --
> > Kenneth Brody
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:20:51 -0400
> > From: Craig Tooker <craig at cwtsoftware.com>
> > Subject: Re: The @when user key function/feature....
> > To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> > Message-ID: <4CC87B93.8050507 at cwtsoftware.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> >
> > On 10/27/10 14:15, John Esak wrote:
> >> @wukNNN - F3, F4, F8, F9
> >>
> >> So how many people use this great function?
> >>
> > Thanks for keeping us on topic John.
> >
> > I use this feature on invoicing/cms applications to manage addresses
> > with the F8 key. In @entsel I trap F8 and on screens I use
> the @wuk*
> > construct to call up editing screens or browses for addresses (ship
> > to/bill to).
> >
> > The user knows that the F8 key will display/manage client addresses,
> > phone numbers, email addresses and the like.
> >
> > It's another way to keep the user interface consistent across an
> > application.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:06:32 -0400
> > From: "Richard Kreiss" <rkreiss at gccconsulting.net>
> > Subject: RE: The @when user key function/feature....
> > To: <john at valar.com>, <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> > Message-ID: <000001cb7612$73a28230$5ae78690$@gccconsulting.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Interesting as I had not realized this would work. Tested
> it and it does.
> >
> > I still would like and @fkey(function key pressed,
> @afkey(alt & function
> > key
> > & @cfkey(ctrl & function key) function that works like @key.
> >
> > This might make all 12 function key available or maybe just
> 1-10 and then
> > alt 1-9 and ctrl 1-9 for a total of 28 available function
> keys. This
> > would
> > make 54 possible single key options available especially
> now with dokey
> > for
> > doubling up some built in key functions.
> >
> > At present the most single key functions I have in any one
> file is 21.
> > This
> > includes / [ ]. I am using rolling prompts plus help to
> list all of the
> > possible single key strokes as well as describing what they do.
> >
> >
> > Richard Kreiss
> > GCC Consulting
> > rkreiss at gccconsulting.net
> > ?
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: filepro-list-bounces+rkreiss=verizon.net at lists.celestial.com
> >>
> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+rkreiss=verizon.net at lists.celesti
> al.com] On
> >> Behalf Of John Esak
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:15 PM
> >> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> >> Subject: The @when user key function/feature....
> >>
> >>
> >> @wukNNN - F3, F4, F8, F9
> >>
> >> So how many people use this great function?
> >>
> >> I think it is often overlooked, and I know I use it a lot
> in all my
> >> stuff.
> >>
> >> My feeling is it allows a whole extra level of processing,
> i.e., a whole
> > different
> >> place to "be' when you're inside a filePro program. It has some
> > trickyness to
> >> it when you first use it, but it is so worthwhile. Does
> anyone have any
> >> questions about it or any good suggestions regarding it?
> >>
> >>
> >> 4.1 @WUKnnn When user keys F3 , F4 , F8 or
> F9 is pressed
> >> in field "nnn". When the key is
> pressed, the special
> >> key label can be tested by using
> system maintained
> >> field @sk. The following key labels apply.
> >>
> >> F3 INSL
> >> F4 DELL
> >> F8 DPRT
> >> F9 GRAF
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is the HELP for the feature... I don't think many
> would use the
> > feature if
> >> this is all they ever saw about it. Any comments?
> >>
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> P.s. - we have had a nice long spread of messages this
> past month or so
> >> about filePro-related stuff... And then today, finally,
> there was nothing
> > but 9
> >> messages I had to delete without-reading because none of which were
> >> about filePro, but rather about some pretty unrelated open
> source thing
> >> or
> >> whatever. Yes, usually, topics start out loosley related
> to FP, but
> >> soon,
> > we
> >> end up seeing the same old names and the same old topics that have
> >> nothing
> >> whatever to do with what we want to be talking about here.
> I'm one who
> >> sees no problem with OT: subjects, but that little
> mechanism is fast
> > forgotten
> >> and we end up with the filePro people going away for long
> periods of time
> >> and the forum not being used for what we all want it used
> for... And
> >> eventually it not being used at all for long periods. So,
> when this
> > happens,
> >> I'm going to take it upon myself to throw out some stuff that might
> >> spark filePro talk.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:15:24 -0400
> > From: "Richard Kreiss" <rkreiss at gccconsulting.net>
> > Subject: RE: The @when user key function/feature....
> > To: "'Brian K. White'" <brian at aljex.com>,
> > <filepro-list at lists.celestial.com>
> > Message-ID: <000101cb7613$b07b06e0$117114a0$@gccconsulting.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Brian,
> >
> > I don't think John deserves that type of language thrown at
> him from
> > anyone
> > on the list.
> >
> > John posted one email with a link to a demonstration of how
> Anzio with
> > scanning can be used with filePro.
> >
> > You posted at least 4 emails about your terminal emulation
> project. It
> > seems to me that you're annoyed with John for strongly
> recommending Anzio
> > as
> > a terminal emulator when you are working on you own.
> >
> > Richard Kreiss
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: filepro-list-bounces+rkreiss=verizon.net at lists.celestial.com
> >>
> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+rkreiss=verizon.net at lists.celesti
> al.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Brian K. White
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:47 PM
> >> To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> >> Subject: Re: The @when user key function/feature....
> >>
> >> On 10/27/2010 2:15 PM, John Esak wrote:
> >>
> >> > P.s. - we have had a nice long spread of messages this
> past month or
> >> > so about filePro-related stuff... And then today,
> finally, there was
> >> > nothing but 9 messages I had to delete without-reading
> because none of
> >> > which were about filePro, but rather about some pretty
> unrelated open
> >> > source thing or whatever.
> >>
> >> Wait, you can talk for ages about a terminal emulator and
> scanning for
> >> use
> >> with filepro but I can't?
> >>
> >> Screw You, Jerk.
> >>
> >> --
> >> bkw
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:37:21 -0400
> > From: Kenneth Brody <kenbrody at spamcop.net>
> > Subject: Re: The @when user key function/feature....
> > To: rkreiss at gccconsulting.net
> > Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> > Message-ID: <4CC88D81.4090509 at spamcop.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > On 10/27/2010 4:06 PM, Richard Kreiss wrote:
> >> Interesting as I had not realized this would work. Tested
> it and it
> >> does.
> >>
> >> I still would like and @fkey(function key pressed,
> @afkey(alt& function
> >> key
> >> & @cfkey(ctrl& function key) function that works like @key.
> >>
> >> This might make all 12 function key available or maybe
> just 1-10 and then
> >> alt 1-9 and ctrl 1-9 for a total of 28 available function
> keys. This
> >> would
> >> make 54 possible single key options available especially
> now with dokey
> >> for
> >> doubling up some built in key functions.
> > [...]
> >
> > Well, for *nix systems, the limits on termcap makes it
> impractical to add
> > 48
> > keys to each entry.
> >
> > However, for Windows, you can set PFSKHEX=ON, and @SK will
> be a 4-digit
> > hex
> > value for any "unknown" keystroke.
> >
> > --
> > Kenneth Brody
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:55:49 -0400
> > From: "Richard Kreiss" <rkreiss at verizon.net>
> > Subject: RE: The @when user key function/feature....
> > To: "'Kenneth Brody'" <kenbrody at spamcop.net>,
> > <rkreiss at gccconsulting.net>
> > Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> > Message-ID: <000201cb7619$567f89d0$037e9d70$@verizon.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: filepro-list-bounces+rkreiss=verizon.net at lists.celestial.com
> >>
> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+rkreiss=verizon.net at lists.celesti
> al.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Kenneth Brody
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:37 PM
> >> To: rkreiss at gccconsulting.net
> >> Cc: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> >> Subject: Re: The @when user key function/feature....
> >>
> >> On 10/27/2010 4:06 PM, Richard Kreiss wrote:
> >> > Interesting as I had not realized this would work.
> Tested it and it
> > does.
> >> >
> >> > I still would like and @fkey(function key pressed, @afkey(alt&
> >> > function key & @cfkey(ctrl& function key) function
> that works like
> > @key.
> >> >
> >> > This might make all 12 function key available or maybe
> just 1-10 and
> >> > then alt 1-9 and ctrl 1-9 for a total of 28 available
> function keys.
> >> > This would make 54 possible single key options available
> especially
> >> > now with dokey for doubling up some built in key functions.
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> Well, for *nix systems, the limits on termcap makes it
> impractical to add
> > 48
> >> keys to each entry.
> >>
> >> However, for Windows, you can set PFSKHEX=ON, and @SK will
> be a 4-digit
> >> hex value for any "unknown" keystroke.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kenneth Brody
> >
> > Still not as convenient as having it as a built in function.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
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