This is a little late...

[Bill Campbell]

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010, Fairlight wrote:
>On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 05:03:41PM -0700, Bill Campbell may or may not have
>proven themselves an utter git by pronouncing:
>> I haven't made any changes recently.  The Mailman lists here run
>> in a free VMware Server virtual machine, CentOS 5.x on a 2U
>> Supermicro box with dual Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz
>> processors, 8GB RAM, and pretty vanilla WD SATA drives.  There
>
>SATA or SATA2?

SATA.  I bought this box from eBay a couple of years ago.  It's
got some Adaptec faux-RAID card on the Supermicro main board.

>And are those dual Xeon or quad Xeon?  I've seen both in that speed
>range...just as Core2 Duo processors can be quad or dual, depending on
>model.

Just dual Xeons.  It's too old for quad.

>> The only time there will be any significant delay in message
>> processing is when somebody sends from an e-mail address that
>> isn't on the subscriber list, is too large, or identified as spam
>> by spamassassin, all of which put it on hold for moderator
>> approval which may take some time depending on when Mark or I see
>> it, and get around to approving it.
>
>John is right, though...  Back 3-5 years ago, it did used to take 30min to
>3hrs to get a non-approval-needing message to echo back to the list.  I
>believe this was prior to the adoption of lists.celestial.com though.

Could be.

>> FWIW, I got a snail-mail from Puget Sound Energy last week
>> telling me that our electric usage is 75% greater than our
>> neighbors, which I attribute to having three racks of servers.
>> Any donations gratefully accepted.  The houses on either side of
>> ours are about 4,500 sq ft while ours is a modest 3,100 or so.
>
>Would it be cheaper to co-locate the boxes at a real carrier, or to pay the
>electric?  I'm guessing to pay the electric would be cheaper.  I remember
>Bill Vermillion telling me that it was about $750/rack at Level 3--per
>month.

I priced it out a while back with Integra Telecom, our T1
provider, and it would have been more expensive.  The big win
would be when we have wind storms here that take out the power
for a week at a time.  I have a Honda 3,000 watt generator that
keeps the computers running nicely, but it's a PITA to have to
put gas in a couple of times a day, and can be a bit of a bear
when the wind combines with snow as our driveway is long and
steep.  So far I've always been able to get up it in my AWD
Subarus, but it wouldn't be fun humping gas cans up the hill if I
couldn't.

Bill
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